Yknow, theres a massive 13.3 elephant in the room

Ngl, im not 100% sure, but after the buff it did beat the EF in dogfight and WVR probably still does

Sounds just like playing f4e which always gets pulled to premium f4s which are just better

the munitions gap between the 4E vs the 4S is a noticable amount smaller than than any 12.3 and the current 13.3s.

that was after the first buff that didnt even last a day, it was reverted and modified.
The su27 will not beat a eurofighter of equal skill in a dogfight

it’s literally the best 13.7 in the game

oh wow here’s migan fox-3 with the chair : )

Mr Migoon, whats your take on the claims that the 27sm will beat a eurofighter in WVR combat

This is true, as 7E-2s and CW vs. 7Fs and PD is drastically smaller then 7Ms and 9Ls vs 9Ms and 120As lols

I’m not MiGan
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Are we talking about su27sm or heavy su30mk

he was talking about the 27SM

oh didnt see the fm readjustment since i havent played any tt sukhoi in a while
i only heard about the drag and aoa coefficient buffs

Su-27SM

that all depends on the situation
EF2K (AESA) will easily be better outside 10km, letting it dictate the fight
after that it depends on how skilled the players are
I haven’t tried such an engagement against a skilled player so I’m not gonna really comment further on this

Yeah no you cant use a better platform to nerf the already bad other platform

Not rn in a dogfight, but WVR? I am betting my house on the Su

honestly theres like two solutions, more decompression or the other solution, making the max uptier/downtier bracket at 12.0+ 2/3rds a br, since the weapons performance+airframe brackets are way closer together if theres no full uptiers

reminder that the EJ KAI and K2K are 12.3 fighting full kit ARH flankers.

Gap between dogshit f4e cw radar and f4s pd radar is rather big imo

f4e has a better defensive kit+a fp that isnt to scoff at for an 11.x