Yknow, theres a massive 13.3 elephant in the room

13.3 premium flankers should be 13.7
lets stop lying to ourselves.
the 27SM should be 14.0
the J-11A can stay 13.3
the 11B can stay 13.7

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Good luck using that dog shit radar at 13.7.

Also how is the 27sm 14.0 ?

Based on what ?

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Missile count?
Monstrous post buff FM?
cope harder, theres worse airframes at 14.0

So where is the f18 cope then ? 12.3 with 8 missiles and insane FM ?

Or the premium f18 with 10 missile at 12.7 ?

Every 13.3 have 4-6 fox 3 missile. Your problem is ir missiles and thats on you and your skills.

R73 is like the easiest fox 1 to flares

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??? i never said the f-18a shouldnt be 12.7, youre doing deflection because you know your argument suck.

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No no you and your teenager mind want this only applies to the one that you personally hate while its the same problem with the others planes.

Every point you made was completely useless.

At 13.3 ? All plane have 6 fox 3 missile, only difference is how much ir missiles.

Thats your problem, ir missiles not the plane

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You had me there until the 27sm slander, that thing should not be 14.0.
sure its one of the best 13.7’s but its downside doesnt make it 14.0 material, especially not missile count

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ah yes youre resorting to ad hominem, without actual argument that holds up when things like the F-16As (12.3) get their shit kicked in by 13.3s because they have no reach, how about the fact that 12.7 or 13.0 fighting 13.7/14.0 respectively being stupidly unfair?

or the various underbr’d fox-3 slingers at 13.0 and 13.3 fighting 12.0-12.3 that only are there because of compression?

Find me a better argument.

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??? What slander?
The FM itself after the buffs absolutely creams the typhoon in wvr dfm and only the F-2A beats it in a dogfight?
maybe give it R-77-1s at 14.3

Absolute delusion
ragebait

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Yeah no even mig29 keep energy better than heavy su30mk2 mkk

Agree.

ask russianshark, hes a duelist, dude plays the 27SM more than anyone else in a competetive setting

You are the one demanding changes so telling others to cope might not be good idea

I agree that the Premium Su-30s should be at least 13.7- but they are cash cows and Gaijin won’t move them up until they have been milked dry. They are equivalent, if not better than, the F-16C- better missile count, better missiles, still good radar, and good FM. They are 100% undertiered.

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well do you think that the 13.3 flankers should be 13.3, cause last i checked 12.3/12.7 was nigh unplayable as a br in between how many arh are flying per match and sheer spam out # of premium flankers

some people just refuse to acknowledge that they are undertiered.

Nah some people refuse to acknowledge that decompression is the solution rather than coping

15.7, but gaijin refuses.

Yes, but it certainly doesn’t help to target or ridicule others for their opinion. It also does not make the argument stronger, but really just makes it weaker.