I guess given you are lying and making stuff up throughout this entire thread, with your main goal being disruptive and getting it closed, you just presume so is everyone else. So, where exactly is the proof that I “literally voted in that poll and against it”? Got none? Just made up stuff?
No, the Horten was a tank shredding UFO for months, at least. They only changed the dispersion, then years later they changed the belts to be less effective.
Nope, Horten received FM and Gun accuracy nerfs in the same week after his introduction.
At the end of the day, the biggest issue with the so-called NS-45 APHE is that it’s entirely fictional. Here are the main problems:
1. Unrealistic fuze design
The fuze length is just 1mm, which is absolutely ridiculous. A fuze this short essentially means the shell detonates on impact, rather than after penetration. In reality, no APHE round would be designed like this.
For comparison, the 50mm APHE used by the Me 262 A-1/U4 will usually over-penetrate light armor targets without detonating, which is what a realistic APHE shell perform.
2. Mismatch between label and actual explosive type
Even though the in-game stat card labels it as APHE, the game files show that it’s actually treated as a HE shell. This means:
With the same amount of explosive filler, the NS-45’s “APHE” produces 7x more fragmentation damage than a regular APHE.
For example, the Me 262 A-1/U4’s 50mm APHE has a similar filler amount, yet it can barely one-shot medium tanks, while the NS-45 can easily one-shot heavy tanks like the American T34. That’s clearly the result of blatant stat inflation.
3. High accuracy + overpowered explosive damage
On top of the insane explosive performance, the NS-45 is extremely accurate. With this combo, the Yak-9K can reliably destroy all SPAA vehicles, which is something that regular APHE or APCR rounds can’t even come close to. This isn’t just strong — it’s flat-out overpowered.
According to russian fanboys is just a skill issue…
Wow, it’s almost like a hyper agile Soviet UFO with a laser accurate Russian bias bomb launcher in its nose is an entirely separate issue from a large sluggish ground attack plane which trades all A2A capability for A2G capability.
Man, CAS haters are all the same.
SPAA is worthless against well-played CAS.
Is this actually true? Can you provide evidence?
That Tiger had the same fate as my Panther A did.
Ah ahahahahah. Average Russian mains not wanting nerfs. Like man how? Unless someone like me who actually mains SPAA they ain’t gonna shoot nothing down? (I use the twin 40mm Bofors on the M1919A1 and got 3 Russian planes down, one being a yaK-9K). ANd one or two good SPAA ain’t gonna kill 5 YaKs in the sky. Plus, they APHE SOMEHOW oneshots open-topped SPAAs too. At 3KM range.
Pretty sure Leo 1 is in 8.0
Jagd27, ask Hudler to show us WHAT NON-RUSSIAN broken planes there are. Answer: NONE
Yes, i know. That is true.
It’s just what cas abusers say if anybody on this forum says something about cas.
I feel sorry for you. Best wishes.
BR 8.0 is still a long way from tier 8.
There are plenty. Depending on what BRs are we talking about.
To claim things like F6F, F4U or AD4 aren’t busted is insanity
Also Hudler
F6F-5 is Ok, not busted mate. F4U’s mid, AD-4 is good but also does not have 45mm APHE.
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Mate u said “Just spawn AA” and also “that’s what CAS abusers say blah blah blah”.
Ehhhh…
I’ll just write this down just for you.
For a loooong time on this forum, me and others who advocate for tank only gamemode argue with cas abusers. People for TO posts a lot of arguments, while cas abusers do not have anything to say, and their strongest argument is “just spawn spaa” or “just spawn a plane bro”.
So, going here, seeing people complaining about plane, i simply post “just spawn spaa” comment. Do you get the irony here now?
The fuse sensitivity is ridiculous indeed. Bottom fused shells need serious decceleration for it work. No way 1mm of srmor decceerates this shell in a significsnt fashion. And yeah, the explosive power of this shell…
Tried 50mm recently in Poomer.
Shot a guy in the turret. 1 out of 3 crew ded, gun breech yellow. He shoots me I die. Basically 50mm does not kill things in 1-shot unless very lucky and it doesn’t even kill everyone in the turret o if shot from the side.
Meanwhile Yak-9k casually 1-shot my crew in a goddamn Churchill MK VII 10s after I spawned and no, ammo did not explode. If shot in the turret - sometimes hull crew survives. Sometimes.