IIRC the F-104 s were on 10.0 before the A-10 and the Su-25 were added.
Correct me if I am wrong.
That is where the second part comes into play: Moving the all aspect missile slingers up to at least 11.0, regardless of how bad they would perform in AirRB. The all aspect missiles are the problem
Moving the all aspect missile slingers up to at least 11.0, regardless of how bad they would perform in AirRB. The all aspect missiles are the problem
Or just yank the all-aspects off, either way tbh
F-5C reference!
That wouldn’t be a bad idea, half the kills that decent A-10/Su-25 players get are gun kills with gunpods with obnoxiously high RoF
Lightning will probably be moving up anyway if/when they overhaul Red Tops. So its fine for now, then it can move up when Red Tops get sorted.
It should move up regardless. As should all the other supersonics that are undertiered as hell.
Fighting them in planes 200+ kmh slower then them on the deck (and being a higher BR nonetheless Hunter) is really annoying.
And I dont care if they got no flares, a lot of them supersonics 9.3 dont, so the flareless wouldnt be all together
Problem are still the All Aspect slingers at 10.0 to 10.7.
A-10, A-6, Su-25, Su-22M3, Buccaneer S.2B, Sea Harrier, AMX, AJS37
11.0 at least for them, or no more all aspect missles for them (but then everyone will cry, because they already spend money with mommys credit card)
Lightning can move to 9.7 for now. But when it gets Red Tops fixed
Then it can move to 10.0 comfortably.
Sure, we can move all-aspect slingers up, but then we also need to move everything at 11+ up to 12+, 12+ to 13+ etc. Because all of those aircraft would be totally and completely DOA at 11.0 at the moment. And killing all those aircraft just because of compression is unfair.
The A-10, A-6 and the Su-25 are not built to dominate the skies, but the ground. If they are dead in Air-RB so be it.
So what about the Sea Harrier?
Its not built for that role. its built for A2A. It can barely survive the full uptiers as it is. In fact its pretty much DOA in a full uptier. Now you want it to be facing F-16s?
Yak-23 wasn’t ok at its BR even before supersonic jets gets BR changes.
Having same BR with MiG-15bis was joke.
Also RIP Venom :(
Is there any one remember ME163?XD
Of course more decompression has to be made, my point was just that some planes are not meant to be effective in AirRB because they were never intended for such role IRL (historic accuracy amiright)
The Sea Harrier and maybe the AJS37 being the only planes not fully made for A2G.
I dont think anyone anywhere would fly out an A-10 against a hoard of enemy MiGs.
German Engineering so good it is better than Jets 10 years newer than itself. They were clearly ahead of their time /s
Also Ki-200 that gots big oof 30mm nerfs.
Whatever, When compared to other Russian jets, the Yak-23 should drop to 8.0 and the Yak-30 to 8.3 BR.
Both variants should be 8.3.
Move it to 8.3 firsr and see if it’s enough before putting it even lower. No need to have it at 8.0 right now it might be too good.
AJS37 what
That thing is 11.0 iirc
I don’t think it 8.0 would be cracked because it wasn’t even good at 8.3.
Ynow you could just like
Strip the all-aspects off some of them, AJS is fine bc thats already 11.0
It used to be 11.0. It got downtiered to 10.7 (which is reasonable as it’s simply an AJ37 with 2 more missiles (that can either be Aim-9Ls or Mavericks).
That fact that it is a supersonic plane with Aim-9Ls being able to face 9.7s without flares is pretty funny (although most 9.7s+ have flares).
But if it went back up to 11.0 again, it would be facing F-16s and MiG-29s / Yak-141s, so I’m not sure if that is reasonable.
If the 163 can be 8.0 this should be too. Realistically both should be 8.3.