Yak- 130: as usual, Russia is ahead of it's time ... just in WarThunder

1 more bomb then the Israeli A-4Es (1 TT and 1 premium) at the cost of CMs, RWR and AAMs as those A-4s can carry 2x Walleye ERs, 1x GBU-3 and 2x AIM-9Bs 60x counter measures and have RWR, Yak-130 has 4 KAB-500krs and a slightly better FM and ZERO CM and no RWR…
Now If we move the Ayit to 10.7 with the Hawks, the Hunter F.58 to 10.3 the Yak-130 and the A-4E (Israel) to10.0 and the A-4E (USA) to 9.7 we can talk… but the “Yak is uniquely OP” is complete BS and everybody knows it, even if they will not admit it.

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Both the A-4s and the Yak-130s probably do need to go up to 9.7 at least. Kinda annoying to only have unguided bombs at the same BR, and not even necessarily with CCIP. Though will have to say, did encounter a Yak-130 as CAS yesterday for the first time and it was a bit of a pain to deal with because of how fast it was and how low and aggresively it was flown. Definetly handles extremely well.

ARB I think its probably a bit too strong in some regards to be 9.0. But not quite strong enough to deal with compression at 9.3.

ASB, I think it should probably move up to 9.3.

Naval it should move up to 9.3 or they need to move other aircraft down so they are usable.

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I do not disagree, I’m just annoyed that the TV bombs at 9.3 are suddenly an issue now Russia has them.
I am not trying to defend the Yak-130s BR, more point out the double standard that is being applied by those that have defended the A-4s for 6 years or so complaining about the Yak.

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I think the core difference though is quantity.

I cant even recall the last time I saw an Isareli tank in a match. and whilst they arent the only, like the SQV A-4 in the US tree does get 2x AGM-62. I dont see them used much either.

Meanwhile entire teams are consistantly made up of soviet players, and their lineups at and around that BR are annoying to deal with as it is. So you’ll see at least one pretty much every match, and thats why its more notable.

A rarely used, a bit too strong vehicle is ignorable. A constantly used, a bit too strong vehicle, is annoying

While I get what your saying, more people playing the Yak-130 doesn’t make the A-4s less OP though, it just highlights the problem, the A-4Es F.58 should not be lower BR just because they are a little harder to get.
I get your point on how they may have “flown under the radar” up until this point, but that doesn’t mean the Yak should go up and those stay where they are, hopefully Gaijin revisits ALL of those planes BRs.

Because they functionally do the same thing, both have guided bombs and the Yak-130 is limited with no countermeasures.

Development years don’t matter, Sweden has a Cold War spaa (although it is an apc) at 2.3

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There’s the issue that the A-4E is a squadron vehicle, which many get for free, and get atrocious stats in. Yak-130 is new so there’ll be mostly the more dedicated players using it.

From having used KAB-500Krs a little, and the Hunter 58 more, the Yak-130 may have greater potential at 4 kills per sortie, but the Hunter is much harder to kill with SAMs.

Ground kills includes air RB.
Statshark will not tell you anything.

No, but its why people are complaining way more about the Yak-130.

But the issue is, Gaijin wont adjust the BR of vehicles that dont get played much. For example, the GRB BR of something like the Hunter F6 makes no sense to me, but its stuck at 9.7 becuase probably no one uses it in that gamemode

While air combat isn’t nearly as important in GRB, it is still clearly considered when deciding on BRs. Too much weight put on it really, and that’s how we end up with many planes that are just kind of useless in GRB.
Ground vehicles don’t really care about jets going 1400kmh, a plane going half as fast with more bombs or CCIP is infinitely more threatening.

Which is why I said grain of salt. To quote someone earlier, words have meaning, use them correctly.

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How many times do these ignorant threads need to be made. BR HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TIME OF SERVICE.

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No worries … I’ll make a new one about Albatros … especially the Russian premium one at 6.3 in GRB.
So much “fun” when you get 2-3 of those at 5.3-6.3

Its crazy because I dont remember seeing tons of posts talking about how oppressive the A4 was but the 130s performce has blown past the A4 but y’all still bringing this up.

Let me clarify, I dont give a rip if the a4 goes up. But whats bogus is yall sat on the A4 (because its not all that common to run into) until your new favorite click to kill toy is under br’d.

It is busted, it absolutrly wrecks teams, and you cant complain all you want but the stats above showing it out performing OLD aircraft in kills already means it is way over performing.

Give it flairs, who cares? But it is busted where its at now.

its not even, try it. KAB500kr has roughly a 3km tracking range in real conditions

That in no way changes the average players experience

What? What are you even trying to say here? The average player whines and cries and sniffles if they die to anything. That does not matter. What does matter is game balance. The KAB-500Kr is being routinely overexaggerated in its performance capabilities in these discussions about the Yak-130. That is what matters.

Its russian

The evil Russian monster plane with no RWR or CMs and a whopping two more tv bombs has been vanquished. The Americans can finally be at peace with their worse plane that has an RWR, CMs and two less bombs. Dont even think about bringing up bullpups because they are terrible and require half a braincell that players simply dont have. 😡😡😡

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I was getting less even in broad daylight against one of the test drive’s Tiger 1s. Like 2.5km. The biggest issue with it is that it glides very poorly and the guidance time is very short.