Yak- 130: as usual, Russia is ahead of it's time ... just in WarThunder

[Caernarvon02]

how many work. as most dont or arent specific to the information being cited

[MiGoon_Fox-3]

[Kallu609]

So how many of these are from “news” sources (the fact that these are allowed is simply insane), or books that are simply not available and can’t be verified without buying the whole damn works

[Mihaly_Mister_x]

@racimazzedine

Unlike yak130m who had its first flight like 1 week ago

according to your statement hey how is it fake…

[Mihaly_Mister_x]

in its current form one with irst wasnt build but planned to be added tp the aircraft omes built did not have irst…so…fake

[Lauri_Heino]

Why don’t you go and find out for yourself

[Caernarvon02]

real platform. fake weapons set.

shouldnt be in game as it wasnt ever armed.

[racimazzedine]

If its got added now, what do we know about it ? Do we just go by assumption? Which would give a plane weapons that we aren’t even sure it can use them ? Like fox 3 on yak130m ?

[Mihaly_Mister_x]

thats a radar…an aesa so yeah should be able to

[racimazzedine]

Ok where is the details.

Every plane has a radar. One does 270* wide search, other have limited range.

Stop playing the assumption game.

[Lauri_Heino]

From Flightglobal (Wayback Machine): The Yak-131 strike version will have cockpit and engine armour, a 30mm GSh-301 gun, and either the Phazotron-NIIR Kopyo radar with mechanical or electronic beam scanning, or the Tikhomirov NIIP Osa passive phased-array radar.

[racimazzedine]

Its just says a radar being a radar.

Where is max horizontal scan ?
Max range?
Max Kw ?
How many t/r modules ?

Dont try to be smart here, either you got it or you dont.

[Mihaly_Mister_x]

@racimazzedine

Stop playing the assumption game.

idk what you are sayin…the devs played the assumption game on the yak 130 in game…deny it r73 …dont give it flares= low br…where are the details on the aesa radars on the british and italian ef2ks mk2…last time i checked its details were still classified…they is already assumption game played by the devs…why not on the yak130m…why not add it along side its italian variant at the same br

[WalletWorrier]

Now the real question is why does this:

get weapons its operating nation never purchased and that have never been mounted operationally, only technically compatible

while this:

doesn’t get its main air-to-air armament nor countermeasures despite them being more often fitted than not

[Lauri_Heino]

Kopyo was the first private venture radar by Phazotron. Drawing on technology developed for the Zhuk radar, Phazotron produced Kopyo as a lighter, smaller radar suitable for equipping trainers and light attack aircraft as well as for upgrading older aircraft like the MiG-21. It uses both high PRF and medium PRF modes for optimum detection and tracking at all aspects. Kopyo weighs 120kg, occupies 250dm3, with a 500mm antenna that achieves 29dB gain. Tracking limits of the radar are ±40°. Kopyo has 2 recievers, and transmits with a peak power of 5kw, 1kw average. It uses an MPS data processor, and a TS175 digital computer. Its MTBF is 120 hours. Kopyo has an air-to-air track-while-scan (“SNP”) mode, it tracks 10 targets, and engages 2 simultaneously. The simultaneous engagement capability has been demonstrated. It retains a single target track mode. Search range is 57km headon and 25 – 30 km pursuit, with a tracking range of 45km, against a 3 sq m RCS target. It has vertical scan, automatic HUD scan (± 14°), optical (pilot selected target on HUD) and helmet close combat modes. Air-to-surface operating modes are comprehensive, something Phazotron only introduced in the current crop of radar designs. There are three mapping modes; low resolution (real beam); medium resolution (Doppler beam sharpening, 10:1); high resolution (synthetic aperture, 100:1). Allows detection of moving ground targets, sea surface search, map freezing and interfaces with the Kh-31A antiship missile for target handoff.

Radar embarqué parmi les plus récemment développés en Russie, le Osa est avant tout destiné à équiper des appareils de la classe du MiG-29 ou du Yakovlev Yak-130. Il s’agit d’un radar en bande-X, capable de fonctionner dans des modes air-air aussi bien que air-surface. Il peut suivre 8 cibles et en engager 4 en même temps. Sa portée maximale est de 85 kilomètres et il opère dans une zone de 60° en azimut et de 60° également en élévation. Il pèse 120 kilos, et occupe un volume de 120 décimètres carrés. Sa consommation est de 3600 watts ( maximum : 500 watts par minute ).

[Mihaly_Mister_x]

@racimazzedine

Where is max horizontal scan ?
Max range?
Max Kw ?
How many t/r modules ?

Again what details did the devs use for the

@racimazzedine

Dont try to be smart here, either you got it or you dont.

apply it to yourself

not the best info but still info

[racimazzedine]

Oh so now we gone to non aesa radar in a plane where many sources says aesa radar.

Ok

[somebody_Else]

Well this thread has run its course

[MeanBROSofD72805]

@Lauri_Heino

Yes, it’s almost like Wikipedia is a first stop toward trustworthy information, full of links to primary and secondary sources for further research

Nope, this is proven to be false, wikipedia prioritizes news sites and media rather than acutal primary or even actual secondary sources

@Caernarvon02

full of dead URLs that lead nowhere and incorrectly cited sources.

literally this

[MiGoon_Fox-3]

the MiG-29 flight manual on the MiG-29 wikipedia page is literally from DCS…