I agree. The XM800T is quite hard to deal with as it has a stabiliser and is frontally 50.cal proof.
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XM800T at the same or higher BR than M3 Bradley?
You heard it here first, folks!
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its a balance idea based on performance, being ignorant to performance isn’t helping you as the bradley doesnt even compete with the xm800t in terms of speed and size
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the type 87 RCV is 9.0 and has a 25mm with a apfsds round with ~92mm of pen and no stabiliser, the type 87 RCV (P) is 7.7 has a 20mm with ~66mm of pen and is fully stabilised
the 25mm gun is significantly better than the 20mm in every way apart from rate of fire
the XM800t being on tracks and having slightly more armor gives it a lot more use than the type 87 rcv (p) (in addition to more people playing it)
the xm800t is probably fine where it is, especially considering they were planning to nerf most or all low caliber apds rounds
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One is fast and small with an airsoft gun as armament
The other has TOW missiles, thermal, and 25mm bushmaster
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well i did hear about the rarden nerf too, if that goes through that’ll be great but currently it feels like im playing COD with 4 of these things present at all times and just sitting in one spot
with the amount of specs you have at your disposal, like a stabiliser, thermals, autocannon, im sorry but i think the solution there is to just get good
each vehicle is unique but this one does everything so well at its current br
XM800T doesn’t have thermals
Don’t tell me you haven’t even played the thing
yeah the 20mm (the same one that basically all western nations in warthunder use at around that br), doesn’t do a whole lot, the xm800t is i feel limited in how high of a br it can go because it doesn’t have much pen, as it is it cannot do anything against russian MBTs which is very limiting for it as you just have to avoid them
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im talking about you talking about the xm800t being higher in br than the bradley… are you following?
people who complain about things have very rarely played the things they are complaining about, don’t get your hopes up
tbh auto cannon vehicles aren’t expected to do much to t64s, t55s, or t54s, because they have really thick low side and angled turret sides, this isn’t unique to the US, its the amount of grief that it strikes into games for other nations
Been trying to grind Italy using only HU vehicles, and rn i’m at Zsu57 / BTR80 / Pzh2000HU, so needless to say playing paper things - XM800T is the source of like 90% of my frustrations lmao.
I watch these things just body every other light off the caps, BTR’s, Luchs, Fox, Scimitar, all of them just get shredded largely in thanks to the stabilizer. (Ik that’s not entirely fair as they’re lower BR but still).
Idk if it needs to go up, or if it just falls into that category of gremlin tanks which are BR balanced but still suck to play against, either way, i don’t like em lol. I notice almost everytime i destroy one, i tend to have an A2D / P51 / F4U coming back to spacebar me.
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No it’s you who isn’t following
You want the XM800T to be the same BR or higher than the M3 Bradley.
I know both of these vehicles and their capabilities, the M3 Bradley has far superior weaponry and sensors.
The M3 is the superior vehicle by far
hard to say rn due to the tight squeeze between 8.0 and 9.0, which is why i thought 8.7 would be marginally fine, but i think a revision to 20mm apds for specific cannons should be revised entirely, or just the round in general…
but yeah, its in a really good spot rn
Heavy tank drivers yap about Fox all day but when the XM800T comes and does “pest removal” they find a way to complain about that too.
Can’t win
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you do know that auto cannon vehicles have for a very long time had a reputation of simply being support vehicles and aren’t supposed to pub stomp? you’re not leaving much room for fairness for other tanks given the meta they fit into, slower slightly more modern gameplay?
can’t win with someone who’s against the idea of having an okay tank instead of an overpowered one
due to the tight squeeze between 8.0 and 9.0
hmmmm its almost like the correct answer isnt to just put the xm800t up in br but instead to decompress and put everything up in br a little bit
I have a hard time believing that you get regularly “pub stomped” in MBT/Heavy tank by a tin can with 66mm of pen
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