XM800T needs a br change

with the amount of specs you have at your disposal, like a stabiliser, thermals, autocannon, im sorry but i think the solution there is to just get good

each vehicle is unique but this one does everything so well at its current br

XM800T doesn’t have thermals

Don’t tell me you haven’t even played the thing

yeah the 20mm (the same one that basically all western nations in warthunder use at around that br), doesn’t do a whole lot, the xm800t is i feel limited in how high of a br it can go because it doesn’t have much pen, as it is it cannot do anything against russian MBTs which is very limiting for it as you just have to avoid them

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im talking about you talking about the xm800t being higher in br than the bradley… are you following?

people who complain about things have very rarely played the things they are complaining about, don’t get your hopes up

tbh auto cannon vehicles aren’t expected to do much to t64s, t55s, or t54s, because they have really thick low side and angled turret sides, this isn’t unique to the US, its the amount of grief that it strikes into games for other nations

Been trying to grind Italy using only HU vehicles, and rn i’m at Zsu57 / BTR80 / Pzh2000HU, so needless to say playing paper things - XM800T is the source of like 90% of my frustrations lmao.

I watch these things just body every other light off the caps, BTR’s, Luchs, Fox, Scimitar, all of them just get shredded largely in thanks to the stabilizer. (Ik that’s not entirely fair as they’re lower BR but still).

Idk if it needs to go up, or if it just falls into that category of gremlin tanks which are BR balanced but still suck to play against, either way, i don’t like em lol. I notice almost everytime i destroy one, i tend to have an A2D / P51 / F4U coming back to spacebar me.

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No it’s you who isn’t following

You want the XM800T to be the same BR or higher than the M3 Bradley.

I know both of these vehicles and their capabilities, the M3 Bradley has far superior weaponry and sensors.

The M3 is the superior vehicle by far

hard to say rn due to the tight squeeze between 8.0 and 9.0, which is why i thought 8.7 would be marginally fine, but i think a revision to 20mm apds for specific cannons should be revised entirely, or just the round in general…

but yeah, its in a really good spot rn

Heavy tank drivers yap about Fox all day but when the XM800T comes and does “pest removal” they find a way to complain about that too.

Can’t win

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you do know that auto cannon vehicles have for a very long time had a reputation of simply being support vehicles and aren’t supposed to pub stomp? you’re not leaving much room for fairness for other tanks given the meta they fit into, slower slightly more modern gameplay?

can’t win with someone who’s against the idea of having an okay tank instead of an overpowered one

due to the tight squeeze between 8.0 and 9.0

hmmmm its almost like the correct answer isnt to just put the xm800t up in br but instead to decompress and put everything up in br a little bit

I have a hard time believing that you get regularly “pub stomped” in MBT/Heavy tank by a tin can with 66mm of pen

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if it was so easy they would’ve done it by now wouldn’t they?

I’m not a ‘heavy tank driver’ ? I literally just said i was struggling against it in paper things lol.

But XM800T is itself a pest. And when one team’s micro-goblins curbstomps the other teams one, all that means is one team is overrun with pests and the other’s is not.

Like i said, Idk if XM800T needs to go up, because it doesn’t have the pen of some other autocannon lights to deal with heavier targets, but i think it’s equally fair to say it’s a fairly dominant cap contester at it’s current place.

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Apollo’s just taking it extremely personally for some reason, feels odd to be chatting with this fella

Yeees true, but only really dangerous to other “pests”, as it should be. If the thing can’t deal with MBTs it should be able to counter enemy lights at least.

I hope we can agree that uptiering XM800T until it no longer meets light tanks isn’t a viable solution

Ad hominems now?

you say that as if gaijin normally decompresses frequently

I can tell which answer you pick in the trolley problem