First bug report states that the PL-12 has a range of only 32km and not 70km. Testing in-game shows PL-12 can actually reach a range of 70km.
Second bug report makes two statements. One statement is that the PL-12 is comparable to AIM-120C in performance, in fact, in-game implementation does show that the PL-12 is arguably to many players better than the AIM-120C as the PL-12 has more manueverability while having less range than AIM-120C. But many pro-players regard the PL-12 as better than the AIM-120C anyway. Second statement is that the PL-12 is better in range than AIM-120A and worse in range than AIM-120C, but this is speculative as the Chinese do not have the AIM-120s themselves.
The rest of the bug reports do not make any coherent sense or is asking for the visual model to change.
Stop believing nonsense, PL-12 has a range greater than 40km in-game. All fox-3s do. In fact at 10,000m altitude and Mach 1.2 for both the pilot and target, the PL-12 can hit 70km.
I can tell you haven’t read half of them, literally taking 8 minutes between you reading my response, looking through one or two reports, and typing this long response out. Congratulations.
I would like you to demonstrate PL-12 meeting its real life capabilities in War Thunder, including max speed, energy retention, and range. This has already been done in the bug reports, so the burden of proof is now on you. Edit: It appears that you have not played any China air/ground at all (this is rather unsurprising).
This is what happens when you merely take a glance at the text and not take the time to read through them. You can only blame yourself. I recommend you use a translation software to view the source materials, and learn even the basics about this topic, before trying to speak with authority on it.
Bad flight performance is a myth. It’s comparable to the f16C and the F35C is more like a f18. The only non maneuverable one is the f35B for obvious reasons
I didn’t mentioned, only replied specifically to @Matheus87679 questions. But is obvious that the game’s health is more important than any addition, but it’s to be expected bugs after any update, so this one future update might have some heavy issues with radar signatures and stealth mechanic, which I hope is part of Gaijin’s priority if those ever happen.
You are literally projecting. You even linked reports talking about the 3D model when I asked for what reports show the range is underperforming. You even regurgitated the first report’s claim of the missile having less than 40km range even though this is outright false. I can demonstrate to you that the PL-12 can even have 100km in range in the game which is of course fired from very high altitude and high speed.
Also, the bug reports do not demonstrate anything and the technical moderators agree. This isn’t to say that the PL-12 is correctly modeled, just that there’s nothing demonstrating anything is incorrect.
Yes, Gaijin uses the international Standard Atmosphere. While the manual uses STD-10
But I still don’t trust them :)
“Too much of a bother.” sounds like a cop out. In the old forum you literally had a single sub forum where a dude posted google excel sheets of the performance of each aircraft in the game. It wasn’t perfect but it offered decent insight.
They unironically could use the tagging features and just slap all the documents up on here in the forum in it’s own sub forum. They should already have the files stuffed into a server somewhere unless they literally just have them spread out amongst their staff’s computers.
Here’s some other famous claims:
“We won’t sell top tier premiums” sells top tier premiums
“We aren’t adding missiles” Adds missiles
“We can’t do night vision, it’s too complex.” Adds night vision.
“Volumetric shells are impossible” Adds volumetric shells
“We won’t add super sonic jets.” Adds super sonic jets
Their newest claim is “We won’t add aircraft that are better than their tech tree counterparts.”
It’s hard to take their statements seriously. At least with the Volumetric shells and Night Vision you could rationalize it as “Well, we found out we could.”
But with the Kh-38MT. we’re going by a metric where there’s so many unknowns to the weapon that people don’t even believe that it was real besides a supposed MAYBE marketing claim. Making it where the missile is one of the most broken CAS loadouts in ground RB. And then they proceed to slap it on continuously more capable platforms. So you have a broken strong missile with dubious origin. And if we run with like what you said, we don’t know if it ever test fired.
So I propose the Sparrow X to be quietly added to Phantoms. Because OBVIOUSLY this is the right direction to go. (I hope you understand this is sarcasm)
It’s one thing to drag out paper airplanes and tanks, because at least there’s precedent. But when you start whipping out missiles we didn’t even know exist and starts randomly dominating out of the blue? That’s stupid. Gaijin just pulls this thing out of the ether and a huge forum post is made doubting the thing’s existence because you could barely find any evidence of it.
I’m confused. What is the untrustworthy part, that the manual states STD-10 or that Warthunder uses international standard atmosphere and has been doing so long before people even thought F-15E would be added?
