Was for a while. The Chinese players really kicked off and Gaijin pulled out all the stops for them for a couple of updates. Like they literally got everything good. (end of 2024)
Then they stopped. Im surprised with all the PL-12 changes backlash they havent panicked like they did before
Who said that premium vehicles are exclusives? What kind of whale mentality is this lmao. Nobody promised that F-14D will be premium exclusive. As it was not obvious with other literal tech tree premium clones.
pl-12 lol
PL-12 still pulls more than amraaams after the nerf. The issue is that now its unreliable, since the autopilot can overcorrect, leading to misses and losing lock despite clear line of sight.
No one said that, but the point that was trying to be made in that argument makes sense. He was just trying to point out that players were upset, and numbers mean more than anything else in this game.
how do you feel being wrong
How exactly are any of this contradict what I said? Yes, it still pulls more. Yes, it is also very unreliable because the autopilot is overdone. Two things can exist at the same time.
PL-1.2 g max overload is sure solid example of China bias
Thousands must pray for pre-nerf PL-12s
Kinda funny and impressive how they touched the autopilot values for “better stability” and it made the missile less stable still.
It’s Eastern Bias
The tail stabiliser armour-piercing rounds of the ZTZ99A are obviously less effective than those of other main battle tanks, it’s pretty clear.
Thats not true they have some bias in air the just not top tier air, specifically the J7D which stupidly OP and the 13.3 MKK neither of those belong at the BR they are at.
The chinese player base is going to have a melt down that you dare suggest they have anything good in their tech tree. As they all know Gajin hates them and they are the victims of unjust treatment and how dare you point out any good treatment of the tech tree lol.
Why do gaijin dislike Chinese players?
Premium
Bias
Need I say more
idk
i dont think chinese bias is a thing
those are premium bias. now after ninth wave 30mkk players carry r77’s anyway, so its not fully chinese. another example: the prem f16 in the french tree. belgium f16 is 13.7, the prem f16 is 13.7. completely identical, copy paste. but prem f16 has hmd, tech tree f16 does not. both aircraft have JHMCS irl. if you want hmd, you gotta pay.
actual tree itself sucks. j15t, my lowest k/d 14.7. 47% win rate in 138 matches around 1.5 kd (i didnt play too much due to it obviously sucking “SKILL ISSUE!!!11!!”
i dont like the sm2, its not that special but even with that my kd is 2.4 in it. 48 countermeasures is just insane. i have no idea what that thing was added for before EW.
j10c, just a mid aircraft. lower than normal countermeasures, mid engines (or just high drag with full a2a missiles, it doesnt accelerate), mid flight model, that thing hates slow speeds. gets beaten by: rafale, typhoon, gripen, 30sm2. carries barely any fuel, on a full tank it usually doesn’t last the entire match. if you wanna carry drop tanks, you got a sacrifice a missile.
f16v: funnily enough, i play this aircraft more. it has so little missiles, but atleast it has good missiles that pulls better and goes further. has more countermeasures, flight model isnt half bad. yet, it has like 6 missiles only so you don’t matter too much in the game.
j16: nothing meta changing. normal amount of countermeasures just gives breathing room and is actually playable and not outright cancerous.
PL-12/PL12A: the real reason china is so bad right now. its stats say it pulls 38 g’s. does it? no. at the ABSOLUTE BEST CONDITIONS, it pulls 25g’s. so usually, it pulls lower than that. gets outranged by amraam, r77-1. and even the sparrow is recieving a buff. which means, the only rollable fox 3 in the game is pl-12 and pl-12a.
russia recieved fake pylons, 30sm doesn’t carry 12 r77-1’s. 35 does, not sm. china doesnt have that.
“those are top tier i meant the entire tree!!” j11b has 6 pl12’s even though su27sm has 8 r77’s. i think i read somewhere 27sm doesnt have 8 r77’s irl lol. the thing that makes j11b bad is once again, the missiles themselves.
the ONLY, ONLY tolerable plane to fly in china is the j10a, its good for its br, and now the j16. china doesn’t have anything.
J-11A too
Sure, it’s SPO-15
But you get better FM vs Su-30MKK and MAW
SPO-15 is good enough to notch most missiles by itself anyways, MAW makes it easier
(Best vehicle at 13.3 by ks alone)
A slightly worse Su-27, in fact.
You forgot about the J-11B, which is the best 13.7 China has, and it’s one of the best 13.7 overall (yeah PL-12 issues but still…), although most 13.7 are well balanced against each other.
F-16A MLU is also quite decent at 13.3 since it’s essentially an ADF with more countermeasures.