Would anybody consider “Chinese Bias” to be a thing in either air or ground?

Just a random question because I wanted to hear other people’s thoughts on it. Now I know it’s stupid but my friend mentioned it randomly and it got me genuinely thinking, because I have been noticing a lot of people pick up china, and for good reason, because it seems like a great nation, but I was just wondering if anybody thought it may be considered overpowered in any way.

Anyways the things my friend mentioned were competitive top tier aircraft(J-11, J-10, wildly stupid BR SU-30, F-16V, and the J-15, though I’m not sure bout the last one). But mainly the ground tree he mentioned as it kinda has the best of both worlds in terms of vehicles. It has great Soviet vehicles throughout lower BRs(T-34, IS-2), and the Taiwanese stuff gives it some strong American vehicles throughout the tree as well(M44, M18, M1 Abrams). And in top tier the actual Chinese vehicles seems incredible. Good ERA, good penning rounds, and auto loaders make the tanks seem pretty enjoyable(of course I haven’t personally played the Nation much, so I can’t speak from personal experience outside of facing these vehicles).

I personally don’t think any of this makes the nation overpowered, especially with a tech tree as small as it is, but it’s no doubt competitive. Just was wondering what the general player base thinks.

Any “chinese bias” either comes from mechanics (LDIRCM helis) or vehicles not unique to the china (premium Su-30).

Id be hard pressed to remember whenever someone called for example ZTZs OP lol.

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Agreed. Pretty much my friend’s whole point was that it has American and Russian vehicles. Which is pretty funny for him to say considering he plays Italy and is totally fine with Sweden.

No.
Despite the under-BR’d nature of a chunk of Chinese tanks, that’s pretty much the same thing that Germany & USA have as well.
ZTZ96’s equivalents in other tech trees are 9.7 - 10.0.
& ZTZ96A’s equivalents in other tech trees are 10.7.

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Nah. It’s like a mix of USA and Russia while not excelling at either model.
My main complaints:

  • 6.7s reload of their 11.7+ MBTs, losing to almost every top tier reload (good thing they added the abrams though but I already have USA), while not having the armor of T80s.
  • PL12s have been nerfed terribly. J15T has 48 CMs.

Though the bug report on the PL12s have been accepted and I hope it’s good.
The SU30MKK is pretty overpowered though yea. But I guess they want the large population to cash in a premium for a mediocre tech tree.

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Seems to me that T72 is at 9.3.

And T72 with ERA is at 10.3.

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T-72 uses a worse round.
T-72 ERA does nothing, & the round is worse.

If you’re for removing the top rounds from the ZTZ-96s… I guess you can compare them.

Marginal difference, and even smaller with T72B.

False, the ERA constantly deflects “tandem” missiles. Quite useless against darts, that would be true. 96A’s ERA is clearly better but covers way less and doesn’t actually compensate for the godawful armor, if it didn’t have thermals it would be a 9.7 tank.

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Kontakt 1 does not deflect tandem missiles.
And no, DM33 equivalent rounds are not “marginally” better than 3BM22 & 3BM42.

Probably shouldn’t, but it very often does.

The chinese 3BM60 becomes available at 11.0 (same as russia), what are you even on about?

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Heh?
J-11 is just an Su-27
J-10A is good, but J-10C is just not good at all
Su-30 is just the same as the MK2 variant so how is there China bias? (Literally just undertiered because garbage troglodytes make the average stats look like shit)
F-16V is mediocre as fuck, slightly worse than the PooBIT in the US tree (6 missiles Max at 14.3? That aint it chief)
J-15T has 48 countermeasures at 14.7, need I say more

Only actual good aircraft china has at top tier (13.0+) are J-11, J-11A, Su-30MKK, MICA mirage and J-10A

Also ignoring the state of PL-12s rn

Whoever says that there is Chinese bias in air? Is a dumbass
As for grb, it’s basically the same thing.
Their “home-built” tanks are mediocre at top tier, with the Abrams being the only good one
For SPAA the CSA5 is just a Pantsir S1 sidegrade (maybe downgrade) and the HQ-11 is mid simply because it’s an ARH SAM

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Maybe the only thing chinese that could be considered op other then their playerbase lol are their helicopters as the a2a missiles are decent and their atgms are just as good

Imo their 9.0 ground is one hell of a line up tho

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No, they have some solid line ups, and some under BR’s content (like every tree) but nothing systemic, and most stuff is just vehicles whose performance metrics are dragged down by big-three players

Ion top of that, China has some of the same issues as smaller trees, where it has obvious gaps that have existed for years, where domestic options could easily address the issue or gap, but still haven’t been added

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Their 8.0-9.0 tanks are significantly better than a lot of the other nations at that BR and usually the ones that give me the most grief.

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no top tier air is just a no

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most of their ATGM´s are quite dogshit br for br wise (maybe not the beginnder ones?) at toptier it evens out again

a2a wise deffo quite strong (tho they did just move some of em up for some reason)

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~9.0 is there and there but yeah Chinese 8.0 might be one of the strongest lineups in the entire game.
Mostly a compression issue that could be fixed very easily, but the devs don’t seem to care, so for years we have had T54s with stabilisers at the same BR with T54s without them.

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I don’t know about 8.0, but playing 9.0 and 9.3 is a real pleasure.

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i mean in ground its just russia but better so it kinda has 2nd hand russian bias and in air other than the SU-30 premium i dont think they are that busted