I present the Condor from FFG!!
It has a 30mm (it can have different automatic cannons) and missiles (spike or Konkurs) in its Turra 30 turret. It gets better armor then the standard Leo1 apparently and a new drivetrain. Also nearly all the bells and whistles you would want. It has a bunch of data in the article and more information should be available once it’s presented at the expo.
https://www.hartpunkt.de/condor-ffg-zeigt-flugabwehrkanonen-feuerunterstuetzungspanzer-auf-basis-eines-modernisierten-leopard-1/
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I will die on the hill that Germany should just get the Australian KF41 with the Iron Fist as a squad vehicle. It’s unique and no one would feel betrayed.
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Dude, British mains would lose it.
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why the [brbzzbzzzb bzzzz beep boop eeeeeeeeeee zzz] would they advertise KONKURS???
Turra 30 is the Slovakian crew less turret. They have a lot of old Russian equipment hence why the Konkurs is listed.
For refrence, this also uses the turra 30: Viper IFV Prototype.
Even the gun would be either the 2a42 (bmp2 gun) or 30mm Bush master
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Gotta love how FFG just casually drops the Leopard 1 IFV Deluxe XXL in the middle of 2025 without warning lol
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And with good reason, britian still doesn’t have even a half decent light tank for top tier.
Britain has their own Ajax or Indian Zorawar, they don’t need a KF41 that has no relation to them.
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Tell me again what was the relation you had to the Swiss hunter before it was an unrelated subtree ?
edit: fked up the quote, cant change it on phone
None, in fact I never wanted it in the German tree in the first place and it should have gone to Britain unless a subtree was announced.
Btw, most subtrees have singular vehicles added to the host nation before the official subtree is announced. (F-5E FCU, Swiss Hunter, Rooikat, Pyörremyrsky). Britain already has 2 subtrees, they are the last nation that should receive another subtree.
Also you still didn’t explain why Britain needs a kf41 when they have other options.
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I would also like to see other lights for UK instead of kf41, but you get disappointed patch after patch.
But before they give it to germany as a first australian vehicle (i believe) just to be another puma, idk.
theres 14 aussie vehicles in britain apparently. and the m1a1 AIM is in USA. so its not the first aussie vehicle
i meant first in germany
But it’s not because they don’t have domestic options, if they wanted a Australian IFV just give them the one they selected for the trial, it makes more sense especially if you consider the Abram’s SqV and the vehicles in the British tree. Personally just add both at the same time, give the Redback as the current to light to the British with the Block 1 and maybe Block 2 CRV and give the KF41 to the Germans and maybe already the Schweren Waffenträgern Infanterie.
The thing in the end wouldn’t be a „Puma“ but something new for the german tree.
I actually just wanted them to give the mig-23BN a few historical buffs instead of adding the Swiss hunter. It would have filled the gap we had nicely
Germany 11.0 wishlist (do add wtv you deem worthy):
Leopard 2A4 (1991),
Leopard 2A’5’ MUSS Demonstrator,
Puma VJTF
Puma S1 (2024),
UH Tiger (Early/2011),
Su-22M4 (with some changes such as extra CM and weaponry),
FlaRakRad 6x6 (no VT-1, thermals, stabiliser, smaller chassis and fixed missile tracking, lead/intercept mode)
OR FlaRakPz 1A2 (same features as above but on marder chassis),
Leopard 2 AWiSS,
Marder 2 (option to switch calibres as well as PARS 3 MR),
and finally,
PT-06/T-14 mod (basically a tech tree PT-16/T-14 mod)
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Maybe leo skyranger 35 ?
And also boxers…
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The Wiesel with the Spike would probably also be there. Also while probably 12.0 in the end the Swiss ADATS.
