Wishlist for Germany (WIP)

Well we are willing to wait after all

It’s fine plus ppl on wiki are to be blamed for it since they actually belive the UTM-800 was used on the Wiesel take a look

O forget to mention the ATM have other variants it sacrifice one HOT missiles and replace it with a 20mm or allegedly 30mm too and it can be placed eather on the left or the right

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There is this too but it’s not ATM system as far as i can see from the optics
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Yep, wisel ATM can also mount the RMK-30 which is arguably better for the elevated mast optics.

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Lord have mercy Wiesel ATM going to be mythical

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Strangely on the wt wiki they call the Wiesel 1A2 the ATM HOT
While on the actual page it is called the Waffentrager wiesel 1A2 TOW

Yeah this is also the wiesel 2 as can be seen from the 5 road wheels instead of the 4

Wiesel 1 BTM-208

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So this is all the pictures that can be found about the Wiesel 1 HOT/ATM

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i have no specific info about it, gun depression and elevation unknown, weight of each version is unknown too, and hight and dimensions is not very clear other than this it is just a Wiesel.

Gun depression at front seems to be at around -15° while at the sides, it may even reach -20°.
Elevation i would presume same or comparable to the 20mm wiesel we have in the game.

For weight, we can find the standard weight of the chassis and add the turret weight if we can find it.
It doesn’t seem to be heavier than 400kg tbh.
And add a few extra for the ammo.

The height we can measure using extreme math lol. Comparing known dimensions etc

that’s just a 50. cal sadly.

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And for what reason would that be a thing?

I would love to see more wheeled German vehicles.

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Didn’t the swiss go with the f35? This is from the 2019 trial yeah? I wouldn’t mind seeing this added but knowing gaijin it means we probably wouldn’t see the f18 or f35. Though that depends on whether they added the swiss as a whole. Its a gripen E which means we wont see it in a long time. Also to my knowledge this may not have been a fully ready gripen. If you have any sources for what its operational status was id love to know. I know the swiss have had gripens before, iirc in 2013 or maybe 14 they had two fly during a air show but i dont believe they were flown by swiss pilots nor were the aircraft owned by the swiss. A gripen C would fit better to fill the lack around the current BR but i dont believe the swiss had a C model.

~2013 or so

This is before the referendum which had forced the Swiss government to run a second trial in which the F-35 won.

Its a gripen E which means we wont see it in a long time

The jets in the photo are all Gripen C’s which the Swiss had leased before serial jets were to arrive.

Eight JAS 39Cs and three JAS 39Ds were to be leased from 2016 to 2020 to train Swiss pilots and allow the F-5s to be retired.

Thanks for the info, also do you know if the C is a MS20 upgrade or just the Base C model? Also inguess if we go down this route for trial i guess it means finland air could actually be worthwhile. Gripen, mig 29, mirage, EFT, Rafale.

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whats this weapon being used here?
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gdr mig21 RATO

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Probably some training device with attached loom / flare.

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I had forgotten about the Marder Evolution! It could work well as a hypothetical replacement for the 2C.

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we got our man!

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