The Puma has APS the 2s38 dosen’t which mean it can be killed by missles very easily. The Puma have composite Armor which it can stand heavy rounds while the 2s38 is paper can be 1 shotted. The Puma has ERA which it will be immue to HE and HEAT while the 2s38 will die of overpressure.
Honestly, that aps is useless at that br. All the missiles have ircm
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better then nothing TBH those laser AGM always exploded right before the impact like from the drones.
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Doesn’t that just mean that those missiles hit the range limit?
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Firstly Yeah Spookston is good at the game of course he is but your telling me the average person which has the Object 279 can compete in Top tier? It’s currently in 9.0 meaning in a uptier it gets to compete with the First of Modern MBT’s even a raise of 0.3 or 0.7 would put in firmly on the ground of MBTs in top tier, Also those tanks are indeed fake but still are playable these are literally wehraboo self insert into history and into the macth making, Why nobody is addmiting the fact that germany is gaijin favorite? They have Fake tanks,Best tanks in the game and are the Meta with the Leopard series and the cherry ontop they get to complain about russian bias but still have half of there airforce in top tier be soviet
- M56, under tiered.
Dude its a literal gun on wheels, you can kill it with a gentle breeze, this is such massive cope.
If you are seriously having trouble with the epitome of glass cannon you really need to get good.
Same deal with the angery triangle, its two dudes in a cheese wedge with a bunch of recoiless rifles duct taped to it, it implodes the moment someone looks in it’s general direction.
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May be, I don’t have inside information, but if Gaijin didn’t take player performance, by this point 2S38 would’ve be at battle rating 12.0 considering the multiple threads created about this topic.
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Are you seriously saying Germany is favorited by Gaijn after Russia had all the Meta CAS fire and forget missiles as well as the far superior Pantsir AA for over year. Also Germanys top tier only consist of the soviet Mig-29 and German Players always complained about the Soviet aircraft in the German tech-tree being worse, before the Typhoon was added. Please tell if there was any time Russia wasn’t Meta in Ground and Air?
I’m surprised it’s still 10.3 and not 10.0.
It’s player stats are and always have been very poor, it’s not a beginner friendly vehicle and the overall statistics indicate that.
#Doubt.
Skill issue
Have you considered trying to shoot peoples sides instead of their front?
Apart from bring able to sometimes shoot on the move they are no more effective than tows
Higher firerate, sometimes, higher penetration, no
I could say the same thing about many tanks that youre ignoring because they arent russian
Which one of those tanks gets a laser rangefinder again? Ive forgotten
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Mainly to encourage players to grind the new meta. For the same reason, premium vehicles almost never go up in BR.
It’s foolish to think Gaijin is driven by balance considerations, especially when it comes to premium vehicles. And even more naive to think they care about forum discussions.
Calling the MUSS an APS is an Insult for every REAL APS in the game, even for Trophy which is Bugged…
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Nothing would actually be better because all MUSS does is increase the height of your vehicle and make it easier to spot.
The kind of ATGMs that it can be used against are never used at the BR of the Puma. Only Konkurs, Milan, TOW-1 and HOT-1.
That’s literally how they do it, and they have said that before. They use a metric called efficiency (basically unmodified SL earnings) to determine how good a vehicle is.
Mind you the PUMA aps hasnt worked for 1 whole year and the puma composite cant witshtand heavy rounds at most some 30 mm shots but that’s if ur lucky, u really need to check what you are saying before positing It my man, also the aps Is not even hardkill
I have played the bradley. The missile isnt bad and the gun works really nicely against all mbts.
People complaining doesnt not show how good it is. I do feel like there is a limit to how far down they want to drop it. If we just went off pure stats, it probably would of went down in br due to how many people rush and get insta killed in it.
Geemany does have better mbts but its cas is non-existant. Top tier is also not the only metric. US has the best cas options at most brs and solid mbts.
Russia does get better AtG missiles though.
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Forget about the BMD. Why in God’s name is the Object 268 still 7.0?
We have asked multiple times in the cry threads threads for literally anyone with 50+ games in it to come forward with a 2kd or higher and havent found anyone. Its really not that good, its just annoying to die to. Gun depression is imo the #1 thing that lets it down.
Bmd4 can for sure go up .3 br and be fine though, but same goes for things like the turm III etc. BMD actually has amazing gun depression via the susupension.
About the PUMA its basically the most suvivable vehicle in the entire game bar none, and the muss doesnt even work and there are other bugs with it like losing tracks on ammo rack or the gun permentely disabled after repairing. The only thing that sucks about it is the RoF is poor, if it had ungovernered RoF and the bugs fixed it would be an amazing vehicle.
Probably the biggest reason the 2S38 hasn’t gone up is the fact that Russian 10.3 has a terrible wr currently.
(Which is really funny considering Russia has one of if not the best 10.3 lineups in game. And thats just in premiums)
Its just another instance of gaijin prioritizing statistics before capabilities when it comes to balance and BR placement.