It still too OP in that Br in my Opinion and it surely better then the 2s38
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Well then move the 2S38 up in br??? if your saying that the Puma should stay or whats the problem there?
Bro can you stop spamming? Half of your vehicles you named are not unfair on their brs?
Prove it
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No you prove that they are unfair! I dont say that the turm III is unfair, or the SAV 20.12.48, but most of the other tanks?? Realy
And it’s return to the problem again, in this case you’re suggesting that the SPz Puma should stay at its current battle rating and negatively affecting other vehicle just because “yes”? As I said, this isn’t a fair treatment, the best option for all parties is ground battles decompression.
In my sincere opinion, this thread had some potential to a healthy discussion but it seems is just a few steps to derail and become a insulting competition until a moderator intervene either closing or deleting posts.
I think you have a certain dislike for American and German vehicles. The only one I can agree on is the “Turm III.” While some of the vehicles you mentioned might be better than people give them credit for, Russian vehicles at lower BRs are still far more superior. If you look at the heavy tanks available in the Russian tech tree, you’ll find far more overpowered tanks (not even mentioning the Object 279).
Bro you dont understand it, the puma cant do anything good on its current br, its slow, cant pen shit and is masive. The 2S38 is masive too, is faster and has a way better gun so why the hell should they stay on the same br???
As I said: player performance and vehicle characteristics; BMP-3 which is the base chassis used in the 2S38 system isn’t known for mobility nor protection despite the size. This is the reason I believe it still at the current battle rating.
People will shoutout asking why 2S38 is at the battle rating 10.3 without looking at the root of the problem when it’s clear that Gaijin consider, majority, the player performance for a battle rating change in a vehicle.
And regarding the SPz Puma’s cannon performance, it’s a 30 mm autocannon, 30 mm autocannons in War Thunder performs terribely compared to 25 mm and 35 mm autocannons which either deals more damage or have superior firerate.
Those kind of tanks have to be played defensively, other wise you’ll be dying 90% of the time
I think you give HEAT-FS way too much credit. Yes the American Premiums have relatively high penetration, however they are hard to aim and never manage to one-kill a player. Which is also why they are not dominating the BR of 7.7. Moreover the PZH-2000 isn’t the only modern Artillery, with the 2S19M1 being 7.0 and very similar in age. Additionally the BR’s of 7.0 - 8.3 have very mixed and versityle vehicles which leads to matches with WW2 facing late Cold-War vehicles.
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Gaijin when made up tonk for USSR? Please🙏🙏🙏
(By fake tank Logic as Claimed by gaijin 1944 first designs were made you could claime that the IS-7 has the right to fight the flankpanzer 341)
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Object 297 Can work at Top tier and for some less extent the IS-7, Where your gonna put it? 12.0? Well done now the USSR has Two Underdog ultra meme vehicles to people go and bonk people in
Because Gaijin sells them for money.
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Because armor, mobility and firepower aren’t the only factors that dictate the vehicle’s br. The average player skill matters as well. So you can go blame those players that play badly with 2s38.
Like, try to find a player that has at least 2 k/d with 100 matches with the vehicle
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This is the biggest nonsense I’ve read on this forum.
First of why are you using a Spookston video as evidence as to why they should be placed at a higher BR if we generally talk about the average player skill. Also both the Panther II and Tiger II (10.5cm KwK) can’t be purchased anymore and are very rare. I also believe it is a bit of a stretch to argue that Gaijn should add crazy concepts just because of exisiting vehicles that got a ficitional upgraded version.
Then tell me, why do vehicles go up in br?