Can someone please explain why Gaijin decided it would be a good idea to put the 2S38 at 10.3?! The same goes for the BMD-4 at 9.3?!! For what reason are they at such low BR if they are literally better in every single aspect compared to other light vehicles? They are literally the most broken vehicles I have ever seen… Every second round someone gets a nuke with these vehicles. You don’t even need skill to get a nuke if you just have to rush in and hold left click until the enemy dies… I suggest they either improve the spall they receive or move them up at least one whole BR. If they don’t address this, ground BR at high tier is unplayable.
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To be honest I’m kinda surprised why the Leopard 2K still at battle rating 10.0 while being superior compared to the Leopard 2A4. Or perhaps the DF 105 which yesterday I was able to obtain a Nuke with certain ease, the vehicle don’t create much spall side-on, it’s fairly stable on the move when it’s not even stabilized and the firepower combined with mobility makes it a great vehicle.
The problem doesn’t lie in one nation, there are plently of vehicles that Gaijin refuses to take a look while being blatantly superior to its other battle rating counterparts (Type 69 for example); 2S38 is at lower battle rating for, I guess, two main reasons: the players and the vehicle. Yes it does have some cannon that you can work around with but mobility and armor isn’t the strong points and the players don’t perform very well on this vehicle retaining it from a higher battle rating.
BMD-4M is mostly technical and developer’s choice (it doesn’t have access to APDS-FS belts like 3UBR11), ZBD04A for instance being clearly superior is at higher battle rating and you should know why. Solution here is decompression; ground battles aways were and it seems that aways will be capped at lower battle rating compared to air battles, both vehicles are pretty easy to deal with and most players I face using those don’t know how to play them properly and are easy targets.
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ZBD being “better” is entirely down to APFSDS, if the BMD-4M had it; it would be flat out superior. Better missiles, better p2w, smaller profile.
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Then why the hell is the 2S38 on the same br as the Puma???
The leopard 2k isn`t better then the 2a4… less armor, same gun, same speed?
ZBD04A has APDS-FS it’s a fact, I’m not advocating that BMD-4M should recieve it, while it could be superior, in the protection sector ZBD04A is better, firerate is higher if I’m not wrong, I may be, despite the disgusting missile behavior, it has more than four, meaning you don’t need to manage the amount during the entire match.
@Redstone_2000 and should it be lower? Perhaps at battle rating 8.7 when it was added should be perfectly fine: you don’t get destroyed by ammunition detonation and has vastly better protection.
Autocannons performance were always a problems and they tend to either outperforms some and just don’t do damage at all in others take the M242 for example compared to the Oerlikon KBA B02.
Leopard 2K is superior in mobility, the power-weight ratio is absurd in the Leopadd 2K while having better turret protection compared to the Leopard 2A4 if not similar as it doesn’t have advanced composite materials, gun handling is better and the ammo options is the same.
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I am very aware that people using the 2S38 tend to be worse, however I dont think it’s reasonable to keep a vehicle overpowered or at a lower BR. I also think that decompression wouldn’t fix this entirely. Since the BMD-4M got released as a vehicle-pack, 9.0 to 10.0 have been plagued by it (especially with the summer-sale). While there are vehicles that could definitely benefit from decompression, most over-performing vehicle are Russain.
First: The “Puma” naturally shouldn’t be at 8.7, but at 9.3 or 9.7, which would be significantly better than being on the same BR as the “2S38”.
Second: The 2K has exactly the same horsepower (hp) as the 2A4 and is only 5 tons lighter, which makes almost no difference. Additionally, it has worse turret armor and no hull armor, which is a huge disadvantage. It also lacks a thermal vision device (TVD).
Third: You can’t tell me the BMD-4 isnt unfair at its BR. You cant kill it from any angle on the side, it has extremely good missiles that can be fired on the move, and it’s so fast you have no chance to react. Compared to the “Begleitpanzer” (which is already almost too good at its BR), the BMD-4 is on a whole different level.
Move Puma to 11.7. it under tier and i have almost never seen one at 10.3. always at 12.0 seeing people using it.
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It is the Puma VJTF thats playing on top tier and no, even on top Tier you dont the the puma very often
Unfortunately Gaijin uses player performance to decide for a battle rating change for example, my guess that decompression could make it more balanced in others’ peoples eyes, BMD-4 used to be battle rating 9.0 aswell BMP-3 at battle rating 8.7, the poorly implemented decompression Gaijin did about a year ago changed it.
@Redstone_2000 every vehicle would be better than other if there was a battle rating difference, it means said vehicles would fight in pretty much different scenarios with different targets. Considering the battle rating 9.3 today, it would pretty much fall in favour to the SPz Puma, I don’t think that favouring one vehicle because of another is a fair treatment, that’s why I’m in favour of a decompression.
Your statements regarding the Leopard 2A4 and Leopard 2K is pretty much incorrect except to the lack of thermal imaging device, Leopard 2K is 8.1 tons lighter, it can go forward and backwards at top speed of 72 Km/H, while having same engine total horsepower, it has 4.2 more power-weight ratio, while not being much, it allows the Leopard 2K accelerate much more faster, regarding protection I know it doesn’t have advanced composite materials but the armor still very effective.
Here are some more questionably BR’ed tanks.
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ok but who is activlie playing on 2.0?
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What are you on?? Have you ever played the PUMA/Bradley/Warrior? Their missiles never manage to kill anyone, and their gun can only tickle people with 100mm of penetration. They can literally only be used against other light tanks (which they also struggle with). The Russian ATGMs are much more effective, and their guns have a higher fire rate or higher penetration. I’m pretty confident that Gaijin knows this but is too frightened to face negative reactions from people with a so-called “skill issue”.
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You are saying that the PzH 2000 is unfair on its br but your ignoring the russian 2S19M1??? Its the same thing but 0.7 lower then the PzH 2000… but yes the PzH is unfair on its br.