Why no Su27S flanker at 13.0 yet?

It’s avionics aren’t that bad, and the missile kit is 3 times better.

4 9Ls+ 2 7Fs vs 6 R-27Es, and 4 R-73s, which one would use.

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73s are overrated, it is only undodgeable if the enemx either stallshimself out (bad idea in usa planes) or merges at mach 1.2 (massive skill issue)
Su 33 is shit, 48 cm and unusable fm. Su 27 fm is usable but much more hardcore than any usa plane. Rwr is complete garbage. You dont wanna know how many notches I fucked up thanks to it being shit.

you forgot the hornets with 6x 7p, a better radar, a better RWR and more CMs

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The awionics are unusable but why cant it be better in some areas and worse in others.
F15:
Amazing fm
9m
Amazing avionics
Bad fox 1s

Su 27:
Good fm
Et
Good overall missle kit
Shit avionics

Premium Hornet gets only 60cm vs 48 large countermeasures on the Su-33 and 96 on the 27

there is another one
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Just like mig 29 wich has worse misslekit, terrible dogshit fm and umshit avionics

Isn’t Germany on Redfor?

and how does that matter in a disscussion about BR of certain vehicles?

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That thing is 12.7, it shouldn’t be matching 13.0

If it gets 9M’s

It is alredy stomping every 12.7. A 13.0 would be better than it no shit

considering the fact that the f-2 exists at 13.0 the whole argument that it has “too good missiles” and “decent” fm is a horrendous argument imo

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F-2 should be 13.3 too. A 4.5 gen has no business at 13.0

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He said except under tiered wheicles so I dont consider jas 39 and f2

Well, it and the 15a/grippy/other meta mobiles are still at 13.0… only su27 is a fox 1 carrier that for some reason isn’t at 13.0

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Still better than su 27. Imagine a 13.3 bracket still dominated by f2

The 13.3 bracket is not coming people, it’s not hard to understand

good thing that the base flanker isnt a 4.5 gen
so with that it can go to 13.0

case closed

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This is like arguing the f15a shouldnt be 13.0 cause the mig 29 is worse at 12.7