Why no Su27S flanker at 13.0 yet?

A combo of:

Decent endurance, especially when compared to the Mig-29G.
4 of the best dogfight missiles in the whole game.
2 R-27ETs which are very powerful in sim.
4 more R-27ERs which have the best kinematics out of any missile in the game.
A decent RWR if you’re in the Su-33.
A useable radar (it isn’t good, but it’s not unusable).
And a decent flight model now that it’s been buffed.

It’s just too powerful for 13.0, and we need a 13.3 bracket.

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Irst is useless for spotting targets. It can be useful after you spotted tge target already with radar and than switch to irst.

It’s avionics aren’t that bad, and the missile kit is 3 times better.

4 9Ls+ 2 7Fs vs 6 R-27Es, and 4 R-73s, which one would use.

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73s are overrated, it is only undodgeable if the enemx either stallshimself out (bad idea in usa planes) or merges at mach 1.2 (massive skill issue)
Su 33 is shit, 48 cm and unusable fm. Su 27 fm is usable but much more hardcore than any usa plane. Rwr is complete garbage. You dont wanna know how many notches I fucked up thanks to it being shit.

you forgot the hornets with 6x 7p, a better radar, a better RWR and more CMs

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The awionics are unusable but why cant it be better in some areas and worse in others.
F15:
Amazing fm
9m
Amazing avionics
Bad fox 1s

Su 27:
Good fm
Et
Good overall missle kit
Shit avionics

Premium Hornet gets only 60cm vs 48 large countermeasures on the Su-33 and 96 on the 27

there is another one
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Just like mig 29 wich has worse misslekit, terrible dogshit fm and umshit avionics

Isn’t Germany on Redfor?

and how does that matter in a disscussion about BR of certain vehicles?

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That thing is 12.7, it shouldn’t be matching 13.0

If it gets 9M’s

It is alredy stomping every 12.7. A 13.0 would be better than it no shit

considering the fact that the f-2 exists at 13.0 the whole argument that it has “too good missiles” and “decent” fm is a horrendous argument imo

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F-2 should be 13.3 too. A 4.5 gen has no business at 13.0

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He said except under tiered wheicles so I dont consider jas 39 and f2

Well, it and the 15a/grippy/other meta mobiles are still at 13.0… only su27 is a fox 1 carrier that for some reason isn’t at 13.0

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Still better than su 27. Imagine a 13.3 bracket still dominated by f2