Why most of players BR suggestions are ignored?

Don’t you know you that have to write the new code first? How else would gaijin change something? That would be too much work.

Prove what? Prove the model they used is fake? Or prove they don’t consider the suggestions or are just too lazy to consider the BR change?

Don’t these results make one suspicious? Or are you an employee so devoted to Gaijin that it prevents you from seeing things from a player’s perspective?

This game has been around for 10 years, it’s too old to warrant a redesign that would be costly or even worse

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thats what it felt like when trying to suggest something

they don’t even reply when denying it or give a notice

I think there is scope to have more sympathy for Gaijin if they weren’t so damn unlikable and apparently greedy. I mean you are correct, its an old game and Gaijin and War Thunder really are boxed into a corner with the odds against them.
The BR system is faulty and here to stay.
Gaijn claim that stats control BR and only anomalies are dealt with no personal opinion.I guess that is the best we can all hope for.
Simply put, Gaijin don’t need player suggestion to move BR.

But they do ignore what they have done for the vehicles, such as T25, R2Y2…, when vehicles suffering a huge improvement or nerf, it should be considered to change the BR, instead of using efficiency to measure that, because sometimes the players won’t play them anymore, and keep the data at pretty high level, unfortunately, we don’t know anything about their statistical data, we can only use TS to predict that.

lmao they hide my topic now haha

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It’s already dead, uptier it as much as you want

Yeah the secret nerfs ,do they even exists? I think they do but what proof do I have.The game is old now and will never change.I think there is no alternative but to accept that.

Not secret nerf, I mean if they remove T25’s STAB or R2Y2’s air respawn point, do they really worth that BR? it is pretty wired, because last time Gaijin said due to the efficiency, the T25 still performance pretty well, but the truth is almost nobody play that.

The BR system has been complained over decade, as it comes out, but just simply BR extend can solve at least 90% issue, but Gaijin chose compression, I was shocked that they decide to drop F86/MIG15’s BR and J35XS’s BR

@Chocolate_Pasta
Prove that they were ignored, and it appears your post was flagged, though I am unaware of any inappropriate content in the original post.

Either way, your original post is the only one implying to have insider knowledge.
And to attempt a “You must be an employee because you’re asking for evidence!” type nonsense post… come on.

I don’t understand how you came to the conclusion that it seems I have inside information, it seems like a persecution to prove your loyalty, not allowed anyone blame or complain what you think, you seem to be caught in Stockholm syndrome where all you have to do is summarize all the comments and find the most popular ones to prove that they have been ignored, it’s not really insider information, or do you think that using AI stats is being an insider? Kind of ridiculous.

@Chocolate_Pasta
Dude, I’m one of ten-thousands of critics for War Thunder.
And your posts’ attempt to change the topic about me rather than about your post’s poor attempt to portray something without evidence is all the information most would need.

BR changes are not a popularity contest.

Because most player’s BR suggestions are typically biased takes from sore losers.

There’s some well thought out ones with reasonable arguments, for sure. But the majority are not.

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Dude, Again, I still have no idea why you think that there is no evidence, have you ever tried to count the comments that mentioned specific vehicles?

You keep trying to accuse me of having no evidence, the evidence is very clear, 3000 comments, you can count for yourself how many have been taken up, I’m not an expert on words, if you think there is something wrong with my statements you can make suggestions instead of accusing me of acting like an insider based on my statements, which no one suspects except for you

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@Chocolate_Pasta
Comments are not evidence of comments being ignored.
You need internal memos or other documentation that proves it was ignored.

Not put into the game =/= ignored.
Refer to @FluffyBunnyFeet1 's post here:

Ah, A play on words. you just blame me for the word ignore, or we can use another way to describe this situation, they don’t care about these comments.

Also, there is no evidence to prove they have under consideration, especially for those comments that have many players agree, no feedback, no response, just close the topics, maybe you are right, not ignore, just don’t care, It’s reasonable doubt, not a game of detective.

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Sorry but thats is a stupid excuse. You can find exaclty the same in the last BR update and Gaijin added over 100 BR. changes only for GF.
Is not a secret Gaijin is more and more focused in Top Tier aka 60 euros zone and ignoring and abandoning mid/ low ranks.

A few issues I’ve noted with this topic.

Regarding changes to vehicle battle ratings and Gaijin allegedly ignoring them.

  1. Just because someone complains, doesn’t mean there is an actual issue or problem that needs to addressed
  2. Most of the BR suggestions are based on how an individual player feels when playing a certain vehicle, not based on the vehicles actual performance when considering the wider player population.
    2.1 Most players suggesting changes based on feelings fail to consider their experience with respect to the rest of the population
  3. When suggestions aren’t based around feelings, players most often try and develop a case for BR change based on the given vehicle’s characteristics, as opposed to the statistical performance of the player population (which is at least how I understand Gaijin justifies the changes)
  4. When a member of the forums presents a reasonable well argued case with evidence, that is also supported by the experiences of many or most of the players, Gaijin listens.

I’m glad Gaijin doesn’t pay much attention to player suggestions, because most of the stuff we suggest is shit.

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I wish they would at least give f111a aim 9e or maybe j

There was alot of bad takes in the BR changes thread, but also some reasonable ones.

Why would Gaijin not move the 11.7 Tornados to 11.3 despite them being identical in ARB?
Why should the F-104s remain at the current BR despite getting a huge nerf, which means they are outclassed by stuff at their own BR?
And why should the J-7D remain undertiered?

Those are all reasonable changes to ask for, and gaijin didn’t deliver.

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