You know its boosters are insane and makes it energy fighter…
Problem is just hard to use.
At least I hope gaijin consider Venom FB.4 reduce to 8.3 BR in next major update or Q1 2024 because 8.7 BR it suffer and difficult fight enemy fighter aircraft armed air-to-air missile at 9.0 ~ 9.3
Tried playing a game in the Ki-200… it’s completely insane.
Gaijin thinks this is equal competition, it’s infurating how out of touch Gaijin is, unbelievable.
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Venom FB.4 at 8.7 BR it’s not fine, very suffer and can’t fight enemy fighter with IR SRAAM 8.7 ~ 9.3
I hope gaijin consider Venom FB.4 down BR to 8.3 for Air AB & Air RB in next major update a
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The Venom is where it is for the same reason the Zeros are where they are. No matter the tier, no matter what advantages enemies hold over you, even when turning performance is literally the only thing your plane can do better than theirs, you’re still going to run into players who insist on turnfighting you. It’s as inevitable as daybreak. And the Venom, like with Vampires, Zeros and Spitfires before them, will simply never lose that fight. Which means inflated stats, which mean uptiers.
This is what happens when the game refuses to tutorialize things like knowing the difference between a low energy turnfighter and a high energy energy fighter.
Tutorial’s don’t mean much if people have no interest in learning.
Yes but its actual effectiveness in battle is… questionable. Yeah you can get good at aiming the guns but over 400m a jet can just dodge while he has his speed up. The shell velocity is just that bad. God forbid you try to hit someone over 700 while he’s paying attention. Plus the extra booster fuel is so heavy that it struggles to convert energy advantage into position because the turning circle is huge.
Too good to be 7.7, but not exactly great at 8.0 right now either. Shell drag nerfs hit it hard and larger maps on 6m min fuel put the nail in the coffin for a very interesting plane.
Once we get fuel sliders it could be worth running with something like 9m that will allow you to play the game without every battle being a 1-way trip. Right now if you try playing it and one dude hides in the corner of the map, you’re boned.
As for these 8.7 planes BRs dot is right, no one knows how to engage the enemy other than getting target focused and pressing S key.
because only good players play them. The Ki200 is a strong irony bus, because it’s got less fuel, less ammo volume and less power than the me163 of 8.0, so it’s worse in every single aspect.
All 3 rocket planes are strong as hell as long as the pilot know what they are capable of. Sure they have their weaknesses. But there should be no plane carrying a whole battle on their own anyway.
The only one slightly overtiered is the Me 163 B-0 because nowadays the 20mm ammo isnt as strong as it was and the FM is worse than the Ki200. 8.3 would be fair.
Fuel isn’t a problem at all. I flew EC maps in all of 3 without any problems. With 30sec on fuel you can fly through a whole EC map with more than 500kph.
Missiles are no problem at all as long as you hold speed. All radar missiles at this BR range can be outturned with ease and all IR missiles can be avoided by shut of the rocket booster and slightly turning. Restarting rocketbooster to full throttle takes 1sec.
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Im grinding for F16AJ just to use a cute skin i got for it, currently at Ki-200 and its so fucking funny how im facing all these moderns jets in this little shit lmao
put those planes in the american tech tree and they would suddenly drop to 7.7
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Correct, if the Me 262A was in the US tree it would have been around 6.3 BR
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I’m fuming right now. Six matches in a row and I can’t even get close to anyone. Facing planes that take off at 1000kph and use missiles in a plane that has 2-4min fuel and cannons. It’s outrageous.
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stop using the plane
I did. But I’d very much like to use it, because I waited this long to unlock it and because it’s different. But it has no place in this BR, not at all.
As of 19 minutes ago you said you had just played six matches in a row. The plane is never going to be fun/playable because gaijin doesn’t think there’s an issue. It also doesn’t have a place at 7.3 or 7.7 smashing ww2 jets.
I was in a match when I posted. I did stop using it by now.
Good, only rank 5 german jets I recommend are the migs and CL13s
it wont smash anything because with the 4 minutes of fuel you will be mostly flying at around 50% throttle and using full throttle only in bursts during dogfights making you perform pretty badly, even worse than the He-162. Sure you can go full throttle and become pretty busted for 7.0 but that will guarantee you will crash way before you can get more than 1 or 2 kills at most, if you are facing against a suicidal 163 you can just keep your speed high where the 163 would lock up so you can easily dodge it and waste his fuel and in about 2 minutes he would be crashing.
The 3 planes should be removed imo, it was essentially a manned airfield point defense missile, it was barely playable with 7 min of fuel and now with 4 it has completely no place in the game. They are so much worse of an offender than the Maus and im confused how they just went with reducing the fuel and didn’t realize it will completely kill them.
They can be replaced with the Ki-202 and Me-263, both would have around 10 min of fuel. But the Ki-202 was never built and the 263 was never flown, and seeing how gaijin removed the R2y2s (Which was pretty dumb) i don’t think that will happen, but hey we’ll get a new top tier jet woohoo!!..
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let me stop you there. The FM is completely unkillable and competes with what were previously 8.7 jets in dogfights. Skilled pilots stretch that 3-4m into 10-12 minutes with skillful throttle management. The rocket planes cannot be lowered to the 7.0 ranges where they will simply stomp when flown by anybody who understands that lowering throttle = save fuel.