15E is good. But it’s obviously not as good as su30, su34 and rafel.
and better than all 12.7s. Point is?
Very fair opinion. This thread is about GRB though.
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Other weapons are ineffective at the top rank. There are two missiles, the AGM-65D or G and the KH-38MT. That’s what we’ll compare them on. Everything else is bombs that fly very slowly and require low speed to drop them, I think that’s simply not feasible. In addition, bombs are also present on earlier BRs.
The point is 15E will not ruin the game experience of those in 11.7. Instead those now in 13.0 will.
Since you seem to think the F-15E should be 12.0, lets compare it to the Harrier GR.7. Much worse flight performance, No radar, 2x IR missiles + BOL pods alongside a cas loadout of GBUs and mavericks only.
13.0 would also allow skilled US players to avoid all the clickbaits. I’m suprised people seem to think that its fair and balanced at 12.7 and a certain someone thinks it should be 12.0
chuckles in rafale
Let’s just compare these two missiles.
AGM-65D
Speed
1,150 km/h
TNT
51 kg
KH-30MT 2695.097 km/h
TNT
152 kg
Just think about it,
KH-39MT is three times better in all respects, three times.
And you are trying to put them on the same BR? Did I understand you correctly?
6 KH-38MTs + few low caliber bombs vs 6 AGM 65s+ extensive bomb loadout. Now how about comparing the F-15E to a eurofighter or rafale?
I’d rather have that even if 1 missile is faster and cant be shot down than to have my team collapse in 2 minutes of the game. OR just add a better a2g missile for the US.
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Great idea, let’s also raise the Su-25 to 11.7 so that it doesn’t get into the game with the premium 2S38 and TURMS.
nobody here was talking about the 2S38 or T72AV?
But these are the same unskilled premium machines as Clickbait, there are a lot of them in the game now and the players on them have a very low level and experience. I think that we will only make the Su-25 better and raise it to 11.7.
The Su-25SM3 is there for that, and there are other BR options available that wouldnt require moving the Su-25 to 9.3.
Of course it is clear that all your 6 Mavericks will be intercepted by the Pantsir S1, they are so slow that even the Shilka can intercept them. But I have already given up trying to explain to them that the balance should also include the SPAA.
I’ve given up debating with a US main who seems to think one of the strongest CAS jets in game should be 12.0
You know, your statement to raise the F-15E to 13.0 because it won’t play with Clickbaits is absolutely absurd. I just laugh at your concern for the US nation.
funny coming from someone whose only played the US. The F-15E is the most capable 12.7 ground attack aircraft and so being 13.0 and not the top dog shouldn’t affect it too much. But of course, the moment US mains don’t have something blatantly better they whine (MiG-29 vs F-16, MiG-23ML, Hunter F1)
Can you show a recent replay where an F-15 kills at least 5 tanks in one sortie?