Haven’t used it recently, mostly avoided top tier. I’m sure multiple people could show you easily though.
what if they added an ODS version at 12.0 GRB and added improved TGP/weapons for the current one (like LJDAM/EGBU series, and limited GBU-53) and moved it to 13.0
that would be completely fine as its nothing gamebreaking to add, however even in its current state, there is no justification for it being 12.7 apart from the KH-38MT. The Pantsir S1 is an issue for literally every plane (not really as I can evade them in my fully loaded Harrier GR.7) so the complaints about russian SPAA is a bit of a joke
Can’t have people playing top tier US ground escape their 11.7 AIM/CB/RDF teammates. Without any US players with an actual lineup somewath stabilizing them I think 11.7 US would just collaps under the weight of premium teammates.
Skilled players who have air grinded out would be able to escape it though, it would provide a better experience for those who aren’t only there because they paid to be.
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My opinion is that Gaijin raised the top aviation to 13.0, but the US did not, because the US will soon receive the Super Hornet with new weapons and that is exactly what they will put at 13.0.
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I’m in a dilemma right now, I’m playing Israel right now so I usually get paired with the US against the USSR. I would love to be paired with more skilled US players (I’m not the best player but at least do something) but I don’t like to be bombed by Sukhois just after spawning. However, seeing that the difference between the Sukhois and the F-15 is of ‘only’ 0.3, I might as well face them either way. So on that side, I do think that raising the F-15s BR would help on terms of matchmaking. When it comes to its loadout capabilities I can’t say much as I usually spawn the AH-60 instead of the F-15, so I will say nothing on that matter.
Exactly, it would be a better experience for the people with an actual lineup and that finished the US air tree enough to have the F-15E. Now we can’t actually let those people enjoy good teams now can we?
Moving the F-15E up to 13.0 would be a win for everyone, at worst it would be neutral.
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That, and the fact the F-15E is a perfectly capable CAS jet, even if it gets moved to 13.0. It’s a win win situation for most people in my eyes
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Because as others have mentioned, The Su30/34, Rafael, the Eurofighter (depending on how you see it) is significantly better.
Lets stop discounting the fact that the Kh-38 is the reason why the Sukhois are significantly better than the F-15E. It allows for long range launches while also having a extremely good consistency in reaching the target and killing the vehicle in one shot.
The same thing can be said about the Hammers but it’s inferior to the Kh-38 because it’s a lot slower.
The mavericks do not have that capability and it’s easy to explain why. Terrible speed paired with high drag makes it nearly impossible to do long range shot. This is not even talking about if the target moves and loses temporary LOS.
The correct way to use Mavericks (when spaa are present) is in pop-up attacks.
The only thing the F-15E has going for it is the GBU-39 which can cause problems for spaa but it’s not hard to counter. There’s a reason why the SM3 and the F-15E is the same BR.
Not to mention the SP cost. The F-15E doesn’t have any Laser guided agms where as the Sukhois, Rafael and Eurofighter does.
There’s a reason why the SM3 (a subsonic platform) and the F-15E is at the same BR.
Now when it comes to the Eurofighter, it’s in a tricky spot. On one hand, it’s very good at pop-up attacks and gets plenty of brimstones but on the other hand, that’s all it can do.
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have you tried to use laser mavs? they are even slower than brimstones and you have to lase the target for the entire time of flight.
also the most any plane can carry if 4 because gaijin doesnt understand that at least 2/3s of a LAU-88 can be mavs with SAP warheads
I think having a chance of avoiding kh38 spam is better than avoiding clickbaits, even just playing US 12.0 ive been having a pretty good time and not having too much of an issue from premiums because I think more people with the tech tree have moved back now that its not as painful to play
Didn’t realise brimstones were faster than laser mavs, I’ve only use the 65Es on a harrier which skewed my perception of speed ig. Still feel like the 65Es were more effective at taking out targets though
idk about that, id rather a hellfire than a laser mav and brimstones are better than hellfires in pretty much every way
I’m sure somewhere I have a game where I’ve gotten 5 kills in the f15E alone within a minute but here’s also a mix of f15-16 and it’s 8 targets.
It’s really not hard to obliterate a team even with Mavs, focus their air first, then AA, then tanks. Which is why I have no problem with the f15e going to 13.0
Could you upload a replay here, I want to study the tactics.
Yeah I can try, I have to figure out how since I’m on console lol, I can’t put it in a file I don’t think but I’ll do my best
please note 2 Pantsir kills with AGM-65Ds.
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https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/335195834947110503
Here is the replay, skip to around 5 min is when i spawn f15, only died due to pilot error (me not paying attention to my fuel) then had enough to get into a f16. Hope this helps! also if there was more AA i wouldn’t loiter like a drone but i basically had free will in the skies that game so.
Truly spoken like a person who only play US. A big reminder that the game have more than two nation , stop coping , putting F15E at 13.0 would barely make a different. One nation have good SPAA is not a justifiable reason for it to sit at 12.7 , 12.0 ground should have been it own Br and seperated from 11.7-11.0 long time ago. Can’t believe we asking for CAS balancing and br correction and the load of unwashed US main jump in to use the most worthless reason to justify it staying at 12.7