nobody here was talking about the 2S38 or T72AV?
But these are the same unskilled premium machines as Clickbait, there are a lot of them in the game now and the players on them have a very low level and experience. I think that we will only make the Su-25 better and raise it to 11.7.
The Su-25SM3 is there for that, and there are other BR options available that wouldnt require moving the Su-25 to 9.3.
Of course it is clear that all your 6 Mavericks will be intercepted by the Pantsir S1, they are so slow that even the Shilka can intercept them. But I have already given up trying to explain to them that the balance should also include the SPAA.
I’ve given up debating with a US main who seems to think one of the strongest CAS jets in game should be 12.0
You know, your statement to raise the F-15E to 13.0 because it won’t play with Clickbaits is absolutely absurd. I just laugh at your concern for the US nation.
funny coming from someone whose only played the US. The F-15E is the most capable 12.7 ground attack aircraft and so being 13.0 and not the top dog shouldn’t affect it too much. But of course, the moment US mains don’t have something blatantly better they whine (MiG-29 vs F-16, MiG-23ML, Hunter F1)
Can you show a recent replay where an F-15 kills at least 5 tanks in one sortie?
Haven’t used it recently, mostly avoided top tier. I’m sure multiple people could show you easily though.
what if they added an ODS version at 12.0 GRB and added improved TGP/weapons for the current one (like LJDAM/EGBU series, and limited GBU-53) and moved it to 13.0
that would be completely fine as its nothing gamebreaking to add, however even in its current state, there is no justification for it being 12.7 apart from the KH-38MT. The Pantsir S1 is an issue for literally every plane (not really as I can evade them in my fully loaded Harrier GR.7) so the complaints about russian SPAA is a bit of a joke
Can’t have people playing top tier US ground escape their 11.7 AIM/CB/RDF teammates. Without any US players with an actual lineup somewath stabilizing them I think 11.7 US would just collaps under the weight of premium teammates.
Skilled players who have air grinded out would be able to escape it though, it would provide a better experience for those who aren’t only there because they paid to be.
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My opinion is that Gaijin raised the top aviation to 13.0, but the US did not, because the US will soon receive the Super Hornet with new weapons and that is exactly what they will put at 13.0.
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I’m in a dilemma right now, I’m playing Israel right now so I usually get paired with the US against the USSR. I would love to be paired with more skilled US players (I’m not the best player but at least do something) but I don’t like to be bombed by Sukhois just after spawning. However, seeing that the difference between the Sukhois and the F-15 is of ‘only’ 0.3, I might as well face them either way. So on that side, I do think that raising the F-15s BR would help on terms of matchmaking. When it comes to its loadout capabilities I can’t say much as I usually spawn the AH-60 instead of the F-15, so I will say nothing on that matter.
Exactly, it would be a better experience for the people with an actual lineup and that finished the US air tree enough to have the F-15E. Now we can’t actually let those people enjoy good teams now can we?
Moving the F-15E up to 13.0 would be a win for everyone, at worst it would be neutral.
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That, and the fact the F-15E is a perfectly capable CAS jet, even if it gets moved to 13.0. It’s a win win situation for most people in my eyes
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Because as others have mentioned, The Su30/34, Rafael, the Eurofighter (depending on how you see it) is significantly better.
Lets stop discounting the fact that the Kh-38 is the reason why the Sukhois are significantly better than the F-15E. It allows for long range launches while also having a extremely good consistency in reaching the target and killing the vehicle in one shot.
The same thing can be said about the Hammers but it’s inferior to the Kh-38 because it’s a lot slower.
The mavericks do not have that capability and it’s easy to explain why. Terrible speed paired with high drag makes it nearly impossible to do long range shot. This is not even talking about if the target moves and loses temporary LOS.
The correct way to use Mavericks (when spaa are present) is in pop-up attacks.
The only thing the F-15E has going for it is the GBU-39 which can cause problems for spaa but it’s not hard to counter. There’s a reason why the SM3 and the F-15E is the same BR.
Not to mention the SP cost. The F-15E doesn’t have any Laser guided agms where as the Sukhois, Rafael and Eurofighter does.
There’s a reason why the SM3 (a subsonic platform) and the F-15E is at the same BR.
Now when it comes to the Eurofighter, it’s in a tricky spot. On one hand, it’s very good at pop-up attacks and gets plenty of brimstones but on the other hand, that’s all it can do.
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have you tried to use laser mavs? they are even slower than brimstones and you have to lase the target for the entire time of flight.
also the most any plane can carry if 4 because gaijin doesnt understand that at least 2/3s of a LAU-88 can be mavs with SAP warheads
I think having a chance of avoiding kh38 spam is better than avoiding clickbaits, even just playing US 12.0 ive been having a pretty good time and not having too much of an issue from premiums because I think more people with the tech tree have moved back now that its not as painful to play