Why is the su30 mk2/mkk still 13.3

it will be nerfed once gayjin sell enough, and ppl still say this game is not p2w.

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Basically the same as them tho

Su-27SM and J-11B have significantly better engines. SM also has more missiles while the J-11B has better avionics.

No one will mind if the 27SM goes to 14.0. Its well known that plane is very strong for 13.7

J-11B also gets a MAWs

would be nice if we had generally some decompression but 8ts not like gaijin will do that anyways

but i agree the 27sm is pretty strong for 13.7 in rb

amd in ground same br with tornado…

The last major decompression that actually mattered was back then the F16C was added, when all 10.0+ planes went up 1 br. It actually made playing those brs fun.

ive given up pushing for decompression, gaijin will never do it.

Nuclear thunder showed ARB players how much their gamemode sucks, all we need is for people to get tired and maybe then gaijin will actually work on br’s.


This isnt a bad idea too.
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cause gaijin doesnt care about balance at toptier for some reason 13.7 airframe basically is the SU 30 but its at 13.3 cause its a bit worse FM than the SU 27SM due to engines being worse but still has 13.7 missiles and same radar with similiar fm

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Doesn’t make a difference. It should be 13.7

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It wouldn’t, as it currently stands (which is very compressed and incorrect); the aircraft is fine, because it has fewer missiles than the Su-27SM, amongst other things

Nah. It should be 13.7 currently as its just better than every 13.3 along with the Mk2. Your comparison is short sighted and tunnel visioned on how the MKK will compare to one other jet. Two other jets if you count J-11s

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Yes, it has fewer missiles, but that doesnt mean its not worthy of being a higher BR. Otherwise, if you apply the same logic, why are the F-111C/F with 6x Aim-9Ls the same BR as the Tornado Ret8 with 2x Aim-9Ls?

Why is the Mirage 2KC-S5 with 4x missiles at the same BR as the F-18A with 8? (Even if you factor in IRCCM, it still has less and weaker SARH). Or even just comparing the C-S5 with the Mirage D-R1 or Tonkas.

etc etc etc

Yes, its compressed, yes they should be at different BRs. But there are dozens of instances where the greater good has resulted in 2 aircraft that shoud be at different BRs being the same BR. Its a far lesser evil to have the Su-30 premiums at 13.7 until suffecient decompression allows it to be a seperate BR to the Su-27SM, than the current situation. Though we could just move the Su-27SM up to 14.0 to be alongside the F-18s

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I completely understand, my point was that, given the current BR values, a rating of 13.3 isn’t ‘bad’ because the Su-27SM is at 13.7 at the end of the day, it’s due to the compression.

Perhaps, but now then compare Mig-29SMT vs the Premium Su-30s.

It’s a question of missiles, because the MiG-29’s radar is better, so you need fewer missiles. But I still get the point it’s that whole compression thing.

Even when compared to the MiG-29M, the SU-30s (both the MK2 and the MKK) are better.
More missiles, more countermeasures, better airframe, lower fuel consumption, and more fuel.

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Yeah, the official statement on why they are 13.3 still was just hilarious

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with that rwr and radar?

yes, there is a reason the su27SM was the best plane in tss during the previous lineup