this was before 9-13 went to 13.0
Yes, the F-15A is better and should absolutely not be at 12.7
So 2 r27s> f15a.
What makes the f15 come alive outside of tourney environment?
I mean its no surprise. Random event radar+ sparrows is leaving the f15a a 9M bus
Hmm, let’s see.
better fm, more missiles, more capable overall missile kit (4 decent radar missiles + 4 good IR missiles > 2 good radar missiles + 4 matchstick rockets), actual rwr and countermeasure count?
It has more endurance and more chances to get kills while being able to defend itself.
MiG-29 has barely any endurance due to low cm count (only made worse due to SPO-15), only two good missiles and terrible fm
Best performing 12.7 plane is:
an F-15A sidegrade
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Fair(ish) but IMO its more the sparrows+ radar which is why it deseves the same BR as the f16s.
The pros would just roll them every time even if they didnt do sparrow things.
“Sparrow things” happen on bad launches, not the missile’s fault.
I’m sorry, how is an F-15A deserving to be the same br as F-16s that:
- have less missiles
- have worse flight models
- don’t even have radar missiles
- have worse defensive kits
- one doesn’t even have IRCCM missiles
Totally equally powerful aircraft vs any 12.7 F-15
F16a gets 6 good fox 3
F15a gets 4 and with that radar not much else other than CM count. Its pretty equal.
The F2 if it has its radar fixed > f15 all day. 12.7 is where it should be
HUH?
which Fox-3 is it?
You’re comparing one of the best 13.0s vs a plane that was decent at 13.0
ofc the better one wins, that’s not justification for the F-15A to stay undertiered
Then move the Mig-29s down in BR to make it fair. I’d even argue that the F-15A/J are side grades to the Mig-29G/9.13 due to them having a better RWR, better flight performance, more CMs, better endurance, and an almost equivalent loadout, while only lacking HMD or as good of a radar as the Mig-29s.
I also bet it’s a better plane than the Mirage 4K (and many other 13.0s) which I don’t think should drop to 12.7.
We need decompression, then F-15A can move back up.
Only reason it’s 12.7 is because of compression paired with dumb F-15 fanboys sucking in their fav plane
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Fox 2 MB.
I just dont see the 13.0 over the rest.
Fox 3 carriers start at 13.0- yes bus’ but missile thunder is the game. Better jet with similar loadout too.
Has the global even changed since it went 12.7? Doubtful TBH
12.7
tournement is 4v4 with competent teamates and teamwork on a small map. Air rb is none of those things
I feel like something isnt right in this picture but I cant quite put my finger on it
as a member of covert, who won qualifier 1 outright, the MiG-29 is used for its combination of HMD and R-27ER missiles
S-24s are also utiliser for well, if you watched the stream you’d know
(I use them slightly differently to some people in the tournament but nonetheless)
F-15As play aggressive, brawler positions. a mix of both MiG and F-15s is optimal, although the F-16s have a place in the meta in aggressive positions
Im not dogging the 29. Just think the f15a is where it deserves to be
I seen the AJ get used once… but standard looked like 3 migs and 1 f15
TIGER_TANK_1 take ngl
yea pretty much
the 12.7 F16 variants are viable though, as well as the F-18A and Mirage 2000C, anything else is kinda butt
I remember the 141 being in the bracket. I thought that was generally thought to be good too with the two ers and the 27ts
that’s jetstrike 4v4
no its not lol
are air tournaments 16v16…?? thought so