so i recently got the F-15J and ive had 60 battles in it and not a single one has been enjoyable at all when i am constantly uptiered and fighting EF2000 Su27SM J-11A F-15CMSIP II all who have fox 3 missiles and its not fun at all take off go low get shotdown by rb99 or aim120 dare to flank same thing happens never mind god forbid go high and get swatted out the sky and all you have to defend yourself with is Aim7M how is this even remotely fair what even is the point in playing the F-15J apart from making you hate this game and be angry it either needs fox3s like most other 13.0s hell even a harrier gets aim120s but f15-j no that just gets suffer and depression
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Cause of BR compression and it can handle 13.7-14.0 , that doesn’t mean it should but it can. The f15j is not the only 13.0 , so please keep that in mind.
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The one saving grace of the SU-27/J-11 at 13.0 - at least they get the beloved R-27ER/ET. Imagine being stuck with AIM-7M at 13.0. Still, it can’t go any lower - it’s a sacrifice you’ll have to make.
Now lets be real - take a look around at what else is at 13.0. You have jets that don’t even have all-aspect IR missiles at all (Iranian F-14). Some jets don’t even have IRCCM on their IR missiles (J-8F). Be thankful for what you do have. It’s not all smooth sailing for other jets around that BR. It’s not exclusive to F-15J.
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Compression. Top BR - 1 has always been bad. It’s the BR hell most vehicles go through once they are not the newest anymore.
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That is the biggest problem we have in the game imo.
If the matchmaker would be fair, there would be way less complaining about specific planes.
Another example: Mig21 SMT/MF and J35XS is now 10.3 and guess what, 9.3 gets >80% full uptiers.
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Funny how the Ayit is still boss-tier OP at 9.3. Really goes to show how good it is.
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When you are using a practically older technology obviously you’ll not enjoy, at least in the Drip Battle most late Japanese airplanes get a easy win, such cool camouflages, at the moment I believe only the JAS39C is the most capable aircraft in the Japanese tech tree for air-to-air engagements.
It’s not about the Ayit, that’s another problem, it’s about all 9.3.
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Ayit is 9.3, are we discussing 9.3 or not? Ayit/MiG-19/F-104 will still do their thing at 9.3.
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And you are another example, don’t wanna see the big problem, so better discuss a specific plane.
Yeah, yeah, big bad compression. We all know the problem, it has been discussed to death. That’s your real problem - not being uptiers. Nothing wrong with up-tiers when things are not too compressed. However, some vehicles will still keep doing good even with the compression, hence I mentioned Ayit. I would never want them to change the up-tier mechanic, though. Sometimes you’re not the top-dog, that is okay.
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Looking on the bright side, at least you get AAM-3 instead of just AIM-9M missiles (which pull 10G more) over the American F-15A counterpart at 13.0
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Honestly ayit should be at 9.7, i’ve got like 122 matches and %68 wr.
I don’t disagree. People go on about its speed, but the slowness can be an advantage when the enemy jets have to slow down to try get behind you. AIM-9D at 9.3 is just chefs kiss. Eats F-104A for breakfast.
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It also gets a worse FM due to being an F-15C rather than an A
the aam3 is pretty nice
gaijin need to adress this
It’s gonna be so fun fighting a supersonic with 6x 20G missiles in my Sabres.
aim9d vs f104 is just gogo gadget murder goku and it’s peak
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The F-15J is fine at 13.0, the problem is the ridiculous BR compression in that range and the dumping of bad platforms with fox3s at 13.0 that ruin the whole bracket even further.
F-15J is one of the best legacy 13.0s, along with the su-27/j11.
I’d argue that F-15As (and J) and those flankers should be moved to 13.3.
The current 13.0 fox3 capable jets moved to 13.3-13.7
The current 13.3 to 13.7-14.0
Current 13.7 to 14.0 to 14.3 (some are way better/worse than others)
And 14.0 to 14.7
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