The F-15s are probably still some of the strongest 13.0s in the game. Only beaten by the ICE and F3 Late and tied with the Su-27. Its ultiamtely a compression but the F-15 is stronger than most at that
I’m pretty sure it gets 9m’s right? Or AAM3’s?
My opinion is to carry a max load of them with 1-2 SARH’s. Flank wide and outside and come to the furball perpendicular where you can get close and make sure.
I have decent luck doing this with full 9L’s loadout on f16aj.
The SARH I recommend is only to force any stragglers defensive and allow you to close on them. Or an enemy running away but still within like ~5km you can sue em to shoot em down.
I’d recommend a strategy of trying to merge after the furball has started form the outside and just spray your load all over every target you can as fact as you can when they’ve all done the big merge furball.
As someone with both the premium ARH vigil and f15’s I would take them any day over an f15A without ARH. They’re still fast enough to take you on with an ARH missile and have enough to make you bleed speed before letting another one loose.
The f15a doesn’t belong at same BR as ARH’s. The ARH should probably go to 13.3, but the f15a shouldn’t follow them. They are better, because an ARH slung at Mach 1.1 up into Mach 2 or so(I think) is more than enough to chase down the f15a.
In your scenario I think f15a’s stay as is. ARH 13’s got to 13.3. I still can kill EF’s with em. That’s quite unlikely with the f15a’s.
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And vigen prem. I’d take that any day over f15a. It’s fast enough and ARH means I can force them off their lock and close on them fast because that the energy they bleed defending helps get closer unanswered and the minute I think it’s missing, I release another as I close.
The faster I go, the longer it chases them more effectively. the longer I get to close the distance to fire another, the faster I get to go lol. Rinse and repeat, only if they surprised me would it cause an issue, but with TWS it’s unluckily.
the Viggen DI is weaker. The lack of any IRCCM missiles imapcts it greatly at close range fights vs everyone else with IRCCM. The RWR is very weak, meaning even Aim-7Ms are a threat and the state of BOL nerfs it quite harshly. If any F-15A can get close which is not that hard, then the Viggen is a free kill
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Eh well, IMO it isn’t so easy for an f15a to get close to me. TWS and moving constantly to dodge (S)ARH missiles keeps me pretty aware of what’s around me paired with visual cues. Agree to disagree. I’d take a vigen over an f15a every time.
I would much rather have aim9l and aim120 vs aim9m and aim7m, 2 more irrcm fox2s would be nice but 4 actually useful missiles are far better.
Perhaps. But the very poor RWR, the state of BOL and overall much lower performance of the Viggen DI is why I would be hesitant to use it in that fight. Especially when compared with aircraft like the Tornado F3 which have the same CM load, but 4x Aim-9M and one of the best RWRs in the game.
The weaknesses of aircraft like the Viggen DI and Sea Harrier FA2 make them a reasonably fair fight to the top Fox1/2 slingers like the F-15A, Su-27 and Gripen A
I just use bol for flares and bring full chaff for large cm, honestly why are pods kinda handed out randomly vs given to planes that can carry them. But you’re right the fox3 is balanced by other limiting factors.
Yeah, this is what I normally do on the Gripen. But its a real shame they ahistorically nerf BOL
Only airframes that I think doesnt have them currently but should is the F-15s, which do have 240 CM internally and up until the last major update, really didnt need 640 (I think they had 4) CMs ontop of that. Its not until everyone else catches up properly that those buffs really need to be considered.
Skill issue dawg.
10/10 useless reply dawg
They need to add Aim-7P Block II for all 12.3+ aircraft so they at least become more on pair with R-27R, not even ER.
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AIM-7M has more range
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R-27R pulls harder and has DL
I’d say they’re relatively equal, plus the platforms the 7M are mounted on are vastly superior to R-27 carrying platforms