The early F/A-18 being 12.7 wouldn’t even be that bad if it didn’t get constant 13.7 uptiers.
No Fox-3s. No IRCCM. Yet every match is full of AIM-120s, R-77s, and missiles you can barely defend against, let alone compete with. The Hornet ends up fighting aircraft with an entire generation advantage in missile technology. You basically spend the whole match notching, chaffing, and praying instead of actually fighting.
A 12.7 jet without Fox-3s should not be seeing full 13.7 lobbies this often.
so ? your suggesting to put it in 12.3 ?
Nuh uh, give it AIM 120As and AIM 9Ms… and move it to 13.0
For the same reason that 11.7s (or even 12.0s) have to fight the F-18s, whilst lacking the same kind of SARH performance. If we follow the basic logic, the F-18 premiums should be moved up to 13.3 so that the Phantom FGR2 and Viggen D with only Aim-7E-2 (equivalents) dont have to fight Aim-7Ps
Everything I’ve heard from @Beeschurger is that the Premium F-18s are really strong at the moment and actually OP at their current BR, moving them down or buffing them at their current BR is totally unncessary.
You mean 14.0 assuming it gets the same loadout at the higher BR hornets? Even then, it would be 13.7 at least if it only had 6 Aim-120s.
And any 11.7 or 12.0 shouldn’t be facing a hornet.
If it wasn’t getting uptiered it would be destroying nigh everything in downtiers
BRs are horribly compressed and the last set of changes did nothing to address it
If it had AIM-120 and AIM-9M, it would be 13.3+. Not 13.0 Further, this makes no sense as 1. F-18A never used that 2. F-18A would be a higher BR than F-18C models.
I think he means the Premium F/A-18Cs
the F/A-18A is 12.3
Ok then it doesn’t make sense because those Hornets would be 13.7+ minimum
It’s the same catch 22 with ppl wanting ARH on the F-2A ADTW to compete with the Su-30 hordes
Gaijin gives you ARH and now enjoy your uptiers against Eurofighters and Rafales
It’s not that they don’t think it would uptier them, they just want to be overpowered again at a low BR like F-18C was on release
First, it’d be 14.0 with the Finnish F-18* (not MLU 2) since they both have no HMD and use the same A2A loadout.
Second, that’d uptier every F/A-18C Early which is multiple premiums. Why would Gaijin uptier their premiums by so much when its intended rating is 12.7?
Third, F/A-18C Early are perhaps the best 12.7s in the game arguably. They don’t need to be moved to 14.0.
Fourth and final, decompression.
Another one
Idk why gaijin keeps refusing decompression since it would improve the game by so much. Stock 12.0 grind is just death cuz I keep getting tiered to fight F-14s
ngl that would make it worse.
The issue isn’t that it’s fighting Fox-3s with Fox-1s, the issue is 12+ is insanely compressed.
It goes up to 14.0. I don’t really know why do people think that giving it 120A and 9M will only make it go to 13.0/3
Bro if you’re having trouble fighting against aim54 and f-90 you might as well get use to 11.0
And lower
To be fair, the Kfir C.10 is at 13.3 with Derbys, HMD, and a higher top speed. I really don’t see how a non-Super Hornet with no HMD and worse Fox-3s could be higher.
In the grand scheme of things, it defy too low, but that’s just due to overall compression.
We already have Finnish F-18C at 14.0. It has no HMD and 9M/AMRAAM, so if F-18C early is given AMRAAM and 9M i don’t see the reason for it to not go to 14.0/13.7
C.10 has 4 missile and F-18C would have 10, in a 1v1 situation that would be quite a big disadvantage considering F-18C will just use it’s missile to take down Kifr missile and still have enough to keep pressure on kifir
As for AMRAAMs being worst the Derby, I cannot comment anything on that
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