Why is it not user friendly?
Slow, poor acceleration, poor mobility, bad armor (armor from 9.3 t72), no reverse gear
Indeed. That tank is a total piece of trash. Pure junk tbh
It’s fine.
finna be real here, if this was added to italian tt (technically could have been with turms and all) this 100% would have been 10.7 or 11.0. Ariete P is 10.7 with worse armor (yes its worse bro), similiar shell (BM42/DM33). Ariete P actually has worse optics due to it having the 90s italian optics (same on centauro 105) which is really ironic.
The only bad thing about the 72av is that its a t72, same people hate the frame but I for one can easily bring my hungarian 72m1 up to my 10.0 line up and it honestly is more reliable sometimes than the dardo, im able to be okay even at 10.7, 11.0 uptiers. If i do my 9.7 lineup and get downtier to 8.7 in a t72, it doesnt matter im literally going to decimate the enemy team. The fact that the 72av is .3 above, and is a really modernized variant is actually criminal. Id be fine if it got bm22, but bm42, gen 2 optics, era (yes this is actually effective at a tier crazy with helicopters and can be effective against LGBs).
In my opinion, composite armor has no business below 10.0 (like MBT composites), and in a case like the t72av I think it should be at least 10.3, if not 10.7, which I believe should be the same for t72bs which are wayyyyy better. Dont even get me started on the T90A. If you say its somehow bad or has a hard time, mobility whatever, ion gaf because if it were me I could decimate fields with those tanks.
*edit, just checked wiki and the t72a/m1 is 9.3, my bad ive been playing it a 9.7. Honestly at this point I dont know what to say
Just acknowledge it’s bad, the T-72AV (Turms-T) is bad, not because is bad as it’s but because it’s a Premium and there are people that still buy it, it’s sad to see people paying a Premium vehicle so bad that with the same amount converted in Golden Eagles you can get a better vehicle in the same battle rating.
If it was a tech tree vehicle I wouldn’t mind but as a Premium it doesn’t work anymore, a future compensation for whoever bought the T-72AV (Turms-T) would be very welcome and eventually removing it from sale or moving it as a tech tree vehicle which could serve as great improvement for USSR’s T-72B which lacks proper sight for its battle rating.
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Buddy what are you even saying? the av is a full br over the t72m1…
It already is, it been there eversince the october br changes last year
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The AV is 10.3… this post is years old.
damn right it is and i have since they slightly changed my position
Thats insane take if i ever saw one
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CV90 105 TML was removed for similar reason, it was so bad that it was removed and if I’m not wrong the players that bought that was compensated, then it was replaced by the CV90 105 XC-8, I’m not considering the accuracy issues with the vehicle.
Uhhh, no. The CV90105 TML was exceptional ingame.
But it didn’t have a stabiliser in real life. So rather than removing the stabiliser ingame and making a lot of the buyers angry, they instead upgraded it to the XC-8 version.
Previously with the Italian M60 premium, they removed a stabiliser it shouldn’t have had, and the playerbase threw a fit. Guess they didn’t want a repeat of that.
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really now? IIRC the CV90 105TML wasnt removed becasue poor capability, it was removed as being grossly historically inaccurate.
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Yes, yes. I’m sorry maybe I got confused and replied with wrong information.
All good
Anyway theres no reason why should TURMS be removed as premium. Its fine where it is.
Id ho as far as to say that the TURMS and 80UB are perfect match for premium lineup, one trading hull armor for thermals, but both being good against their counterparts as long as they are played to their strengths.
It is a tank geared for sniping, but with 5 degrees of gun depression and 4km reverse. The sprut at 10.0 does its job better just due to the fact it can reverse and that will keep you alive a lot better than turret armor will in these situations. Not to mention having a much better penning round.
I dont know how it was when first added, but powercreep at this point makes its armor very mid, and no matter how good your armor is you are getting 1 tapped from a lfp/ring/driver port shot, or taken out of action via breach or barrel, maybe losing crew too.
No armor best armor isnt a meme when you dont have the gun depression to only present turret face when peeking in 90% of spots that HATO 9 degrees depression can, and you spend 3x longer reversing back into cover.
If it had the resverse speed and depression of a leopard it could well be 11.0 or .3 even.
9.7.
Imagine RISE (P) or A1A1 trying to fight this thing.
Was no different to the 9.0’s fighting the Leo 2A4’s and M1’s
I cant even remember what tanks were 9.0 back then beside 1A5, but RISE (P) especially had little to no chance against TURMS, vehicle stats wise.