Why is 2C38 on 10.3?

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@MrBombastic8
The HSTVL is double mobility and 22% better penning round, which is usually the justification for many light tanks, and tanks in general, when other things are relatively equal.

BT-7M is 1.0 over BT5.
M41A1 is 1.0 higher than M41A3 purely from the better round.
Sherman Firefly is 1.0 higher than the Sherman 2 purely from the better gun.
AMX-13-90 vs AMX-13, better gun warranting 0.7.
DF105 is 1.0 over AMX-13 with better gun and mobility.

This trend is the most common trend.

@tensilaspider
The OTOMATIC is over-BR’d and should be 11.0 currently. If its APFSDS was removed it could be 10.3 - 10.7.

@ThiccoIai
No, modules were because of all light tanks [and to a lesser extent all tanks in general], 2S38 wasn’t the reason, just one of dozens.

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Unless ur line up is only spaa and very lightly armored light tanks this isnt true

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nah bro it happened to me
3 Abrams
HC SEP and AIM and my fricking HSTVL man

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Lr2s i think but they act the same damage wise

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Wow one time u died to spike congrats
Dude u can fire 3 and u will get only the breech or track

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If that were true they would’ve given it to all light tanks before starting to put it on MBTs. The 2S38 got the modules before any other tank, it was the reason

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The 2S38 got modules alongside a dozen or so other vehicles, including many anti-airs.

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Yes, I also wanted to say that 2S38 can swim.

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i died vro
let it suffer
fix it armor and let it suffer

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U just hate vehicle so u want it to suffer? Thats childish
I hate 2s38 too but i dont say it should be 12.0

If one game u had bad luck it doesnt mean its a good vehicle
For me tge namers are free kills

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i advocate for its armor or everything else of it to be fix but after that let it burn

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Not true, Only AAs and PUMA got the modules with the 2S38

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Well if it would be fixed it wont be as bad

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it would be fix in…….
726337 years

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Post amended, September and December came quickly and my memories are closer to each other in that regard.

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So will you admit that Gaijin considered the 2S38 (and PUMA) to be OP, necessitating this change?

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Lets say it will be fixed why u want it to suffer?

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cuz
idk

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Why would I? it came to multiple vehicles, including SPAA with scouting, and SPAA without scouting…

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There’s a couple of reasons the s238 is so cancerous, namely the sheer amount of them and the magical never overheating gun. I can’t think of any other vehicle in game which can dump its entire ammo load without overheating its gun.

It was very weird how it received that change in the exact same patch it received the internal modules.

Personally, I’d like to see the t-72av and t-80ud go to 10.7 along with the 2s38 so the 9.3 bracket wouldn’t get constantly screwed over by the black hole they create.

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