The situation of baz menshupar and j11A is happening again in the game…
You guys haven’t learned, the vehicle won’t be competitive if it doesn’t have one of the main top tier tools, which is the HMD. Since you made the decision to design the F18C MLU1 in the Finnish aircraft, at least leave it at 13.7, because if it doesn’t, this aircraft won’t see the game.
Since the first dev sever this has been discussed and you insist on giving shitty vehicles on purpose to minor nations, with the same BR as the most complete vehicles.
f16OCU and AM are the same br as the f16C,when they should be 13.3, now the Finnish f18 is the same br as the American f18 C, being that the Finns without HMD, because you simply chose not to put the MLU1 ON PURPOSE, you chose AGAIN to put an inferior vehicle in a minor nation, keeping the same BR of the most complete vehicle.
Give the crappy HMD to the Finnish F18 or lower your BR, because the vehicle is a real piece of junk.
Because it has to be ““Unique””)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
The Finnish F-18C is from 1995.
The Finnish F-18C is also a meta plane as is without it.
F-16AM is on-par with F-16C, they should never be different BRs.
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you have no idea what you’re talking about, The AM has a worse radar, a worse engine, a “better” fm, and it doesn’t have HDM, how is it on par with the f16C?
Would you play with him instead of playing with the american one ?
…And just to remember the pathetic case of the F15I engines, the main Americans made hell on this forum to get the same engine for the F15E, and they were helped immediately.
The f18C Finn received 2 update packages, mlu1 and mlu2, he was supposed to have HMD, but he chose to put the worst possible version in the game, playing in the tp tier without HMD is very disadvantageous, but since they at least made such a shitty decision, at least reduce the br of the f18c Finn, or go back and give him the HMD
F-16AM has an equivalent radar for launching the same weapons of AIM-120s.
And yes, I would play the F-18C in Finland instead of the American one, both are equal.
Will I? Not really cause I’m like 2 priority jets until I can research the Finnish F-18C vs the 1 priority jet for USA.
Then again, it’s probable I just don’t purchase the American F-18C for months.
F-15E/C are equivalents despite different engines.
HMD is not notable for jets without thrust vectoring missiles.
The only way F-18C gets reduced in BR is if ALL 14.0s drop in BR. And the only way 14.0s increase in BR is if ALL increase.
F-18C is identical in both tech trees for weapons, countermeasures, flight performance, and radars.
Oh and here’s that F-16A vs C comparison for you: With C having fuel advantage.
except that one doesn’t have an HMD and the other does, and the one that doesn’t have an HMD has an INFINITELY WORSE sock grind due to the lack of modifications.
If the planes do not have EXACTLY THE SAME TOOLS at their disposal (which includes the HMD) they are not equal.
Mirage 2k 5F and mirage 2k 5Ei are equal… It has the same A2A armament and both have the same tools, what differs is the A2G capabilities, but they are still the same in the Air RB
F18C not… Sorry, You are very wrong
An HMD that’ll impact no fights, just as the HMD of F-16C has impacted no fights.
You act as if F-18 has AIM-9Xs that can utilized HMD when they don’t.
as I said in the other thread, F-16AM is fine at 13.7.
BR compression thats why. Tbh both should be 13.7, and with propper decompression the finnish one could be relatively lower
lower RELATIVE to the CURRENT place, meaning it still could very well end up HIGHER in BR after compression
lower relatively to the US F-18C
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Thanks for admitting they’re identical aircraft.
GBUs aren’t useful for air RB, and HMD is not a BR-causing feature: See every aircraft in War Thunder.
The only reason it’ll take me longer to get the Finnish F-18 is cause I have priorities ahead of it in the Swedish tech tree.
But you didn’t or can’t read posts.
HMD where
Yes this is disappointing, hope gaijin will change something…
it isn’t identical as long as it can’t access GBU and HMD.
Similar but inferior.
Yes. but no ground ordnances mean fewer modifications.
And fewer modifications means more RP needed per each mod
Then it can be a disappointing point when grinding stocks.
And it is sadly a BR-causing feature. even in ARB. :/
Look at the Gaijin’s silly decisions about Tornado IDS.
GBU-capable GR.1 and subvariants are in the same BR with MiG-23ML, and ML acts way superior in all aspects compared to Tornado GR.1 in ARB.
Wrong. Look at Mirage 2000D-R1 and D-RMV.
You needed to add some extra words for it.
I understand why you will take longer to get Finnish F-18 (or even if you never gonna get it)
Giving less priority to some TT is a fair reason.
Look at Tornado IDS’s.
Not only that but look at the cannon weights and drag coefficients of the two Mirages.
There is no gotcha here, especially mentioning my doritos.
And yeah, Gripen A and Viggen Di are ahead of F-18C which itself is ahead of Gripen C unless Gripen E is announced before I get F-18C.
It seems you understood completely wrong about my comment.
I meant, that both ‘having GBU’ and ‘existence of HMD’ are BR-affecting features for some.
If Gaijin didn’t think it should affect BR when making F-18C
it is nothing but another illogical double standard as always.
They decided to split tornado IDS with AIM-9L into two BR, because of nothing but carrying GBU
They decided to let D-RMV go higher because of HMD (which is bullshit when we consider C-S5)
At the same time, Gaijin decided to let F-18C stay at the same 14.0BR with F/A-18C late.
Because nothing but they didn’t want to make US main upset via another Ra’am case.
There were other options that
- adding MLU1 version instead and giving HMD
- just C&P USN F/A-18C as same as those lame Eastern Germany MiG-29 did.
But Gaijin was cowardly and lazy enough to sacrifice Nordic players instead.
No, they split the Tornados cause they perform identically despite the BR separation, probably because the BR range is decompressed.
And the BR separation of the Mirage 2000s can be explained as that, as well as the gun differences.
Either way HMD is not impacting the BR of Mirage, and GBU isn’t impacting the BR of Tornado.