Why doesn't anyone seem to care about the aim-120 AMRAAM's lack of WVR Performance

i think you miss understand me i would like it if the AMRAM performed closer to the AAM-4 so outdoing the aim-7M by a bit but it would still be far worse than the MICA, as of right now it has unreasonably bad off the rail performance.

P.S if you use the Rafale you can get 40-50km kill i have done it many times.

Sure, then you’d have to buff the AAM-4 as its already artificially nerfed aswell.

probably the combo of 24.2 degree of fin AOA + the .02 reduction in wing area as compared to the B

in what way?

AAM-4 is superior to early AMRAAMs in almost every statistic. It is better than the AIM-120C, which is also gimped.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/DrXP5HPtwz0f?comment=CXjBM46Zd22mLLppyh1WAdlI

yea makes sense 1998 (120c-5) vs 2002(AAM-4). and yes i would whole heartedly support this change.

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which one is the third?

lmao
are you trying to use that as evidence? or what
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Seems you mean buffing the guidance delay? Find a video of an AMRAAM being launched WVR, grab a really good timer and bug report it?

If you’re lucky you’ll get a kill on an afk person but that’s any missile. MICA literally cant hit anything past 30 km if they try to dodge. MICA’s lead on a target will be more than an AMRAAM because 50 G.

Could be Britain. MiG-21 Bison premium had a bug report accepted long ago about it lacking R-77 (here). There’s also the issue of a possible Indian Su-30MKI lol

Just an example, not as evidence. The Japanese MoD don’t really reveal information on their equipment through documents like other countries. They also don’t export them, so the only real sources for newer Japanese things is third-party sources.

You have the same luck factor when shooting any missile around 40-50 km the r 77 –1 and C5 are faster but a target would still have to be pretty much AFK for it to hit or turn away too late.

That’s truly the problem with the reporting anything at this point at least when it comes to these modern missiles gaijin wants very specific values as a valid bug report, but all we can do is say it should be better than this or it should be worse than this and they don’t like that that’s why I haven’t reported it because I know it’s just gonna get thrown in the trash.

I said “maybe 3” because I’m honestly not sure. I know China + USSR, but not sure if there’s a third. I can’t name it so I assume not. Always a possibility with Indian vehicles though.

why we don’t care? because AIM-120 never was designed for such purposes

that’s why we don’t care,… WVR Dogfight is AIM-9 purposes.

that shouldnt be used as source to say “nah AAM-4 is better”.
bullshit and not evidence.
there was some proper or semi-proper report for AAM-4 thrust tho.

Yeah, so what I said (“not as evidence”). I’m having a casual discussion, not making a bug report.

AAM-4 has a few accepted reports. All of these would be sweet!

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/77Bwjvfg7ULh
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/77Bwjvfg7ULh
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/BIwz0v6I1RZG