i don’t dispute what you are saying, but it is completely irrelevant to what I said. We are having two different conversations.
What exactly do you think you said?
To me it sounds like
“I come to their soccer game but they don’t even have a basket for the ball”…
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I said that I was put in a game mode not appropriate or made for bombers - and what the point of that is. That the game mode was clearly for dogfighting and not bombing, so I don’t see why it would put me in that type of game when I have a bomber selected, especially when there’s loads of games appropriate for bombers.
i enjoy dropping 1.5kg of bombs on a point being capped
sometimes its fun carpet bombing the whole map
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If this is arcade and there are tanks, then the game mode is clearly made for bombers. In fact, on several maps, you will lose if your team does not bomb. So they are even essential.
Most arcade maps with tanks on them are usually decided by bombs.
If you failed to recognize this yet, then your understanding of these maps is likely incomplete. But that is not the problem of the game.
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YOU put a bomber in a “non-bomber game mode” with no other aircraft in your lineup, where you are to bring a lineup of aircraft.
This is nobody’s fault but your own.
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but CAS are better suited to bombing tanks while bombers are for bombing the enemy air field
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Thats why there are explicit “frontline bombers”. I grant you that four engined bombers are really good for base bombing, but we talk about a B-25 which is even sold as an attacker (PBJ), if you strap more guns to it’s nose.
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This is about bombers being neglected
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But they are not neglected in arcade. They usually decide the games. It is often the players who neglect them.
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You don’t - you get down to 50-100-200 feet and drop the bombs in front of them.
Do you get hit by AA and shot down by fighters? Sure - but that is how you do it - if you are at 16,000 ft don’y even try - just hit bases and stationary targets.
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No it isn’t - it’s about skill issues with bombers - specifically it is showing that most players do’t have any - they can’t see past kdr and getting shot down so avoid bombers and never work them out.
How? You cannot decide which games you get put in ahead of time, can you? It just seems like a lottery. That may be my fault for not adding multiple aircraft to my lineup, but the game doesn’t tell you that and it isn’t obvious or intuitive that that’s what you should do. I usually do have multiple aircraft - but I wanted to get all of my modifications done. But even if I had fighter aircraft selected to, it doesn’t negate anything? I still have bombers that I have to use on a game mode not made for them. So what does that really change, and what’s your point?
EXACTLY!! I’m not hitting a moving tank that are separate and sporadic in a bomber without going down to fighter level and then getting destroyed in two seconds - the gunners are largely useless and you can never outmanoeuvre a fighter. In a CAS bomber I can do that more easily, and I can see CAS bombers being suitable for that type of game - but not big bombers.
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I don’t understand what you are not getting. It’s not hard to put me in a game that’s appropriate for the aircraft I have selected. I’m not stupid or ret*rded for thinking this is dumb. I haven’t played 6 gorillion hours of this game and i don’t spend 23 hours a day playing so it’s just my fault!! How dumb am I? Of course it makes sense to put me - when I have a bomber selected - in a game with no targets to bomb and nothing to do in the match. How dumb I am? Thank you!
You are so rude, arrogant and condescending, while still being wrong.
yep, it’s my skill issue. I’m just not skilled enough to hit targets that aren’t there. Thanks for your useful input.
Bombers don’t do that. Not in the game and not in real life. You get shot down in two seconds, before you’ve even dropped the bombs. If you drop the bombs, you usually miss. It’s a small, moving target and you’re in a large, cumbersome, un-manoeuvrable aircraft. And then you get shot down anyway.
which has precisely FA to do with my post.
hmm…
The aircraft’s potential as a ground-attack aircraft emerged during the Pacific war. The jungle environment reduced the usefulness of medium-level bombing, and made low-level attack the best tactic. Using similar mast height level tactics and skip bombing, the B-25 proved itself to be a capable anti-shipping weapon and sank many enemy sea vessels. An ever-increasing number of forward firing guns made the B-25 a formidable strafing aircraft for island warfare. The strafer models were the B-25C1/D1, the B-25J1 and with the NAA strafer nose, the J2 subseries.
“Potential
adjective
- having or showing the capacity to develop into something in the future.”
As in theoretical. It COULD be used in that very specific manner. It wasn’t made for that, just that it could POTENTIALLY be used in that manner. You could seal all of your cars doors and try and use it as a boat or submersible - does that mean you should? Is that optimal? Is that what it’s meant for? Is it useful?
But wow, you sure did own me by searching wikipedia trying to prove me wrong! Tell me how any of that is applicable to war thunder? Does wikipedia also tell you how the B-25 flew down to ground level in an area populated by enemy fighter aircraft to act as a CAS bomber bombing tanks?
And you report my posts - yet you feel free to be as condescending, patronising, passive aggressive, rude, sarcastic and disrespectful as possible.
Also this is also STILL not the point or what I was saying in my original post.