Hey if its your favorite not gonna argue against that. Nothing wrong with favorites.
But saying its one of the best 9.3 is entirelly different statement and much stronger one and i disagree with it unless you present evidence.
Yes, it has armor, thats why i keep it in my lineup, but outside of urban maps, Leo1A5 and Kpz70 will do much better job.
spall is about weight not penetration the 125mm round is heavier 4.8KG vs DM33 3.8 KG
Again if you like it i literally cant say a word.
I use it as well and it has some strong atributes.
But its not certainly “meta”.
except the KPZ 70 has much worse armor and almost no pen and gets bullied by T72s
Weight does nothing for spall, on large caliber apfsds, penetration on the other hand does, and the dm33 has a much better angle modifier
I dont play it for armor
Yes pen sucks but it is sufficient to deal with base T-72s provided youre not sniping.
Source?
As per already posted video, weight does not contribute at all to spall of large caliber sabots
i mean you can look at the stats on average the KD of the T72M1 in germany is higher than both 1A5 and KPZ
That might be but i dont think its because T-72 is better but because its easier for new player to use.
Its as if saying premium hornets suck because they all have average KD while im sitting at 3.0+ in post MKK matchmaker.
Mobility + gun depression is the meta option in most cases.
i mean the only thing Leo has on it is that it’s faster? and it has gen 1 thermals which don’t really change much and it reloads a bit quicker but has a slower round with simliar pen to 125mm but no armor
better optics, gun depression, gun handling aswell and reverse speed
And gun depresssion, which, granted, doesnt come into play often on urban maps, but anywhere else its crucial.
I dont know directly, but the post did make up a load of factually incorrect information to promote a narrative that didnt really make sense. Like German Tornado IDS being worse than the italian tornado IDS because the Italian Tornado IDS gets AGM-65s
Ah that explains the title. Let me guess Germany suffers
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OP effectively tried to make second premium tornado topic as follow up to this:
but tried to hide it by talking about germany ground first before going back to yapping about premium tornado
Read through that exchange and you get pretty much what was being told here.
Yep, basically, though it was impossible to actually follow because they’d swap between discussing GRB as a reason why an aircraft was bad in ARB and then swap back to GRB, all in the same sentence.
I didnt really pay attention to the tank stuff though because it was about BRs I dont play
only thing that germany suffers in is lack of new vehicles per update that arent premium
they get some like random costal boat and a destroyer and thats it then like 5 premiums
Hopefully they get something new for top tier maybe that’ll help these type of forums from popping up. It’s getting worse and worse each day. I personally don’t think new vehicles is going to help the German mindset but at least it’ll keep them distracted for a while.
I mean Germany suffers in the same way Italy or Sweden or Japan does.
Having massive gaps between br lineups.
Now it’s fine with those nations because outside of the ho-ri situation, you rarely see more than 3 of those nation players at a time, might see all three nations holding like 7-9 players of a match but it’s rare.
Now you get Germany where from 6.7 to 9.3, you get only 4 lineups, 6.7, 8.0, 8.7(and this is a recent change so for years they only had 3 lineups) and 9.3. which means 6.7 games in a full uptier, your chances of having top tier members are like 10%, and even if you have all 4, the majority of the team will consists of 6.7s creating a massive power vacuum for German teams (this is before we bring up the fact Germany 7.7 is bad.) This problem pretty much continues as you go, got an 8.0 full uptier? Well good luck because Germany doesn’t really have a 8.3 lineup nor an 9.0 meaning you’re relying on the few 8.7s to do the bulk of the work.
Really we need to do one of two things, first is to make Germany a minor nation where you need to reach rank 5 in another nation to get access (like Israel) which will massively hurt gaijin due to how many players join to play German tanks. Or Germany gets a massive update giving them actual lineups across most br brackets, which creates a new problem, post 8.0 you have options but before that you run into a massive 20 year capability gap, because you know Germany didn’t restart home grown tank development until the late 50s so even prototypes would be 7.7s or 7.3s, which means blueprint tanks.
This sounds great.
But better this:
I would also add France, China and even Israel.
Or just regular additions without empty updates or only reintroduction of vehicles which have already been added previously into other trees.
So more people would choose them as their first tree.