Why does Germany, Sweden, or Russia one just steam roll every Top tier match i get into?

2A7s don’t have lolpen hull either.

I haven’t said that. Just tried to tell you that armor is yet another metric which affects tank’s performance, meanwhile you’re here laser focused on that metric alone like it’s some kind of a divine thing.

2A7s are the best tanks in the game because they received a pretty decent buff to one of the few flaws previous Leopard iterations had, hull armor. Their turret armor was already better than anything in the game, so with improved hull they’ll have the best armor profile in the game, even better than 90M/BVM you fear so much.

I’m sure you have all the evidence to prove that claim.

Seeing how some people describe RU tanks, I believe this video properly explains their description.

2A7s only have similar armor from the front. And it’s still inferior there.
Armor is at the core of russian bias in GRB so it’s my main argument.
Best armor profile in the game… You apologists are genuinely fucking pathetic . No wonder you’re so drawn to the most handheld nation. Kind of person that would use hacks in a heartbeat if you could get away with it, but i guess playing russia in cope thunder is the next best thing

You’ll either have to shoot them in the LFP or at around driver’s port to penetrate, so their hull armor is pretty similar to 90M/BVM, meanwhile their turret armor is stronger. I don’t know what’s hard to understand here.

Not a single MBT has enough side armor to stop even 9.3 rounds, let alone top tier ones, so talking about that is useless.

There’s nothing pathetic in fact telling.

If I wanted that feeling I’d just spam the crap out of 2A7s.
Good mobility (both forwards and backwards), gun handling, gun depression, optics and shell with a competitive reload with turret/hull spall liners on a vehicle that has effective hull and turret armor. It’s the most well-rounded vehicle in the game and is meta for a reason.

You can feel however you want, but that won’t change facts.

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Nice selective reading, no different than how you dodged the arguments in my earlier post.

Nothing surprising about that though - I imagine that if I was a mediocre player even though I’m playing a broken nation in a propaganda “game”, I would also get insecure enough to outright lie and use fallacies to cope. You’re in your element.

The leopard 2A7 is the best MBT in the whole game, and there is no evidence against that.

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I’m sure it is (in your mind), after all you have to aim for the first time :‘( and that’s like totally unfair :’(

Kinda fascinating that you don’t get the irony of saying the 2A7 is the best when it’s got only a fraction of the pros you can’t live without. The hypocrisy is crazy - you’re in your element too.

The 2A7 has better turret armour than the BVM and T-90M, while having a slightly larger hull weakspot. Overall it has less weakspots (for DM53) compared to the Russian tanks.

I don’t understand what you mean here. It gets rid of many of the issues with Russian tanks such as poor gun handling, depression, and mobility (especially reverse speed). It also has a much faster reload rate.

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Dude do you even see yourself ?
You’re basically having a meltdown on the forums of a f2p propaganda, cope thunder “game”, telling others they are coping when they present you objective evidence that you’re wrong. At this point nothing is going to change your mind, you’ll just keep doing your thing.

No one said 2A7s are unfair to fight, they’re just the best vehicles in the game currently. It’s crazy how you’ll assume something is unfair just because it is the best.
Your delusions are getting to you, you shall take a break from this propaganda game to cool off, you aren’t a prisoner here.

Also, really great stats on that T-80 you played. You really shown us how brokenly OP and biased RU tanks are.

Russian tanks aren’t even in the top 10.

They definitely are.

2A7, 2A7HU, 122, 122PLSS, 122+ all occupy top 5 in subjective order.

After that, 80BVM / 90M are probably next up.

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Nah T-90M is not up there at all.

Top 5 are all 122s/2A7s while the M1A2 SEP, Type 10, TKX and BVM probably make up place 6 to 9.

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I definitely believe that Type10 / Sep likely have higher skill ceilings, but they’re just so easy to knock out.

For all their faults and inadequacies, Relikt jank often handholds and idiot proofs BVM/90M in our mostly CQB map pool.

Some guy way above made the point about ‘time to kill’ in FPS games, and I do think the Relikt bois benefit in this way. If you come round the corner in a Type10 / Abrams, and you and a BVM see each other at the same time. He just has to snap centre mass and lolpen, whereas you have to spend that extra second aiming for the weak spot.

Tbh, this is probably just a very subjective thing and will vary to the individual based on what you value more and how you like to play.

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Well for me Russian tanks vs up-armored Leopard are perfect fair match to fighting against each other They both are same level
Both can’t lol pen hull each other requires both side to pixel aiming each other when fighting
And yeah Leopard do larger weak spot than Russians gun handling are the same start from T-72B3 they not worse than Leopard tbh as for gun depression as you expected there are no space for the gun for more depression
The only thing that you have to blame Russian tank designer failure are reverse gears that they thought unnecessary for them
Fun fact
As I observed while playing Strv122 i see Russian tank players often shoot UFP when i pop around the corner leading to their demise it show that most of them can’t really aim for weak spot

The BVM is not even as good as a regular 2A5

no, that just not true.
2A5 can be pen anywhere on the UFP, the BVM have crapton of armor there

Dude. You’re crazy lol. 2a7v stomps any tseries. It’s not even a conversation. Anything the y series can do, the 2a7v does it better.

This is literally the wildest take I’ve ever seen on these forums lol. I’m with you on the auto loader being de facto armor and eating rounds(it’s BS when I’m not playing Russia lol). But there’s no contest, t series are not as good as Leo’s, not even close.

Lmfaoooooo

You’d rather check my stats (for 1 tank lmao) than reply to the post I linked in full but I’m having a meltdown, keep projecting. Again for reference

[T-series are] More mobile, more ammunition choices (including HE to easily cripple/kill any hull down tank), buffed depression, still able to aim down in the rear arc, can lose a crew member without the reload rate doubling, smaller silhouette, smaller weak spots, protected breech (T90M), covered in clown-tier ERA, overperforming stabilizer…

And yes they are more mobile despite the bad reverse speed. At the end of the day the bs y’all post up here will never change the fact that T80 players (just like Ka50s) play far more recklessly than NATO players, and yet survive for far longer and perform far better even in the hands of brand new players

  • They are much better tanks
  • Russia has more of them
  • and finally it’s pointless to compare them to the 2A7 and 122 since Gaijin rigged the matchmaker to put the 3 best nations (Germany Russia and Sweden) on the same team more often than any other pairing since you couldn’t deal with them lmao

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mfw i have to aim for the first time (that automatically makes my target the best tank in the game)

False

Still less than any other western nation.

So can any other tank. The leclerc and type 10s have autoloaders, and every other western tank has 4 crew.

Debatable, the turret weakspots are larger compared to the leopards.

Both of those don’t mean a lot. How does a stabilizer overperform in WT? All are treated the exact same.

The 2A7/122 is the best tank in the entire game.

Russian tanks are low skill floor, low skill ceiling, but most western ones are high floor/high ceiling. You also fail to mention reload rate, which the Russians/Chinese are the worst at.

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Far better acceleration and better top speed
Depression isn’t important when you can rely on stalinium
Cope
No tf they’re not lmao. A T90M hull down is far better protected than a 2A7 but keep lying i guess
Relikt and Kontakt 5 are way too effective against darts and they should lose effectiveness when the round approaches at a right angle, of course they don’t (russian game)
Russian stabilizers irl are far worse than NATO ones and can’t remain accurate at anything over 15kph

The 2A7/122 is the best tank in the entire game.

Like I said I would also say that if i was born without a spine and needed to play the protagonists just to sustain a mediocre performance. I play much worse tanks and probably do better → I know the game better than you → simple as.