So british phantoms even worse than american F-4J?
Yep, with the exception that the FGR2/FG1 have a higher top speed at low alt and 30 more CMs. But F4JUK is worse than the american F4J in every respect
So in comparison british F-4J:
- Lacking HMD
- Have worse SARH missiles
- Have weaker engines
And I forgot, F-4S only have modern cockpit and wing slats in comparison with american F-4J?
“in the R.N. version” theres still a chance it could be on the fgr2 then as they are pretty difference in wierd and wonderful ways (like radar and landing gear) so its not impossible, tho i could of swore the fg1 had the ability to take them on the wing pylon, strange
The FGR2 and FG1 have been power crept.
The RADAR isn’t as good as the F-4S at the same BR and the Skyflash is terrible now.
the UK Phantoms have no HMD, no agile eagle upgrades It cant turn, it cant 1 v 1 anything.
And the MiG 23 will run it down your speed isn’t relevant anymore. You need to carry a draggy gun pod which degrades the fm even more.
It’s just not an enjoyable experience, best strategy is to try to get some altitude, notch everything that looks at you and then join the fight use your Skyflash from 6km use your AIM 9G on aircraft not looking at you. AIM 9G is very flare hungry.
They aren’t so high?
12.0 is about correct for F-4 FG1.
USA’s F-4J should go to 12.3, and all 12.3s upward go up by 0.3.
Literally identical to F-4S/J’s radar.
HMD doesn’t matter nearly as much as you think.
HMD does when you cant turn your airframe and the AIM 7F is far superior to Skyflash
You are also ignoring flight performance
the two fgrs have different radars, and the f4-ju(n)k is literally just a worse f4j at the same br but a premium
You mean the fact they’re both Phantoms that are both 13.6+ degrees per second sustained, better than the Mig-21Bis…
No they don’t, they all use APG-59.
oh. i didnt realise gaijin didnt…model… them… yknow what i should of already expected gaijin to not correctly model it, they seem to hate correctly modelling british aircraft… yknow like the harrier, lighting, hispanos (granted theyve been semi fixed iirc) sraams…ect
Pish absolute pish, stop reading stat cards the FGR 2 wouldn’t out turn a B17
They’re prefoming ok in the current rb br distribution , though I agree that they should be 11.7 tops. They do very well in sim since they’re 11.3 and can even be at the top of the bracket.
@DatCheesecakeBoi
APG-59s have been modeled for 2+ years.
@luque13
WTRTI/Localhost data isn’t a statcard.
Go and test it a loaded FGR2 and MiG 21BIS
irl they had different radars tho
all the phantoms sucks lol
US F4J also doesn’t have wing slats and can carry a max of 4 sparrows
Weren’t the AN/APG-59 and 60 like basically the same though? Just one of them could fold up or something?
Hey Flame, do you know anything about the RAAF Phantoms?
I found a few pictures of an RAAF Phantom with Sparrows on the wing pylons, was this something they were wired for or was it just a test?
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no they werent, one of the radars on the british f4 could fold up… but the other one didnt need to because of something? but not sure why, but 1 radar was much better then the other… not sure which