ok in all fairness, the people who complain the most about CAS (Germany and Russia mains) play those nations specifically to avoid needing to aim. People who start off with America need to learn aiming for weakspots. This means when switching to a nation with actually good SPAA like France, Italy, or Britain It’s not that hard to learn how to use it.
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I personally use SPAA only for tasks in battlepass and I always use SAM(Ito 90M, Type 93, Type 81 or Santal) as it is easier to achieve. Sometimes I take WZ305 as it is only SPAAG worth taking. However if there is no task, there is also no reason to play SPAA. I rather play one tank lineup so I do not have to deal with CAS. SPAA gameplay is just boring and also unfair as CAS have all advantages over SPAA. Most SPAAG are not fun to use against CAS and also most SPAAG are not that effective and fun against tanks. I personally avoid IFVs with autocannons as well.
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How does playing Germany or Russia mean you don’t have to aim?
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The M19 is .7 higher with half the fire rate (250 rpm for Ostwind and 120 rpm for M19) of the Ostwind. This is so blatantly false.
His argument was that the M19 could rather easily shoot down planes and said it was the same as the Ostwind in that regard, which is clearly not true. Nothing about GTs. Also, aircraft cannon do not always have the same penetration qualities as the tank version be cause of the fact they need to rapid fire.
Be careful what you wish for
Gaijin does not model malfunctions, and for good reason.
It would be frustrating, and not fun at all.
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To track ? Only Ivkv 9040 is able to track targets ingame …
I’m not quite 100 percent on it either since I haven’t had time to really experiment with them yet. I’ll get back to you about it when I find some good info for them.
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120rpm per gun, it gets two for 240rpm. Ostwind 2 has the same listed RoF as the Ostwind - 250rpm.
M19 gets 72mm pen AP vs 49mm on the Ostwind, and its two guns will resist overheating far more.
Gaijin does not model malfunctions
They modeled lower German armor quality for years however.
Germany and Russia (along with Sweden aswell) consistantly keep the strongest cannons of any nation whilst also keeping HE filler. They also face almost exclusively light/medium tanks when paired together.
since it has 2 bofors, it’s technically 240 rpm, but yeah their BRs are insanely unfair.
not really. tanks like the Panther D/A/G/F still shrug off shots from American 90mm, 17pdr, and large HE shells like M107.
Germany and Russia (along with Sweden aswell) consistantly keep the strongest cannons of any nation whilst also keeping HE filler. They also face almost exclusively light/medium tanks when paired together.
They also drive square boxes with ammo storage at the worst possible locations, courtesy of Gaijin.
not really. tanks like the Panther D/A/G/F still shrug off shots from American 90mm, 17pdr, and large HE shells like M107.
They literally had a negative armor multiplier of 0.95 because gErmAn qUalIty.
Not the USSR though, only the finest equipment for them.
That happened to alot of American tanks aswell like the M41 or T92.
That’s still not much of a nerf. Gajin’s crappy shell simulation adds more than that multiplier takes away.
The guns fire at the same time unless you are firing for a while. So althought technically it’s 240rpm- it’s effectively 120.
Two guns resist overheating because they fire slower. Not because they are better at cooling.
And yes the M19 gets good AP but when it’s designed and supposed to be used to shoot down planes… You see why that doesn’t matter?
That’s still not much of a nerf. Gajin’s crappy shell simulation adds more than that multiplier takes away.
It’s not about the outright impact of it, it’s about inconsistent and arbitrary application of rules and just making things up as they go, the Germans are also the only ones who ended up having their belts nerfed, the Kugelblitz to this day doesn’t get an HVAP belt and 66% of it is HE filler… so 66 out of a 100 round AP belt is not AP.
Ho229 suffered a similar fate and it’s HVAP belt is 50% HVAP, 25% AP and 25% tracer, whilst the accuracy of it was reduced by such an insane amount that you couldn’t hit the broadside of a barn from a 100 meters away.
Oh, and that time where German tanks would randomly catch fire from being shot at by machineguns.
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Atleast German actually gets those belts though. M163 is still missing SABOTs, M41A1 missing HEATFS, M42 missing proxy. I’d much rather have a few APCR on an SPAA than none at all.
Ammo belts are such a mess currently, some planes need to equip an AP belt to get any AP whilst other nations can get free AP in their default belts.
Being able to customize them or just having the same belts across the board would probably make sense, and be able to remove practice shells and such that are in belts for whatever reason.
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It’s a relatively fast SPAA with good AP, may be made to shoot planes down but so was the Falcon. Unlike the Ostwinds you get that OPTION.
Which is precisely what I meant.
Most of the time they aren’t firing at the exact same time even if you started firing one or two seconds ago, still 240.
Ostwinds don’t get their HVAP, M41A1 in USA service never used HEAT-FS afaik (same as in japanese service), and was 40mm HE-VT ever used on the Dusters?
Idk if they actually engaged targets with it, but they did do testing and I believe actually qeuipped some units with it