Show me the code. Show it to me. All of your other arguments have been debunked by the guy above me, but I’d love to see where this comes from.
Like EVERY OTHER VEHICLE?
Like EVERY OTHER VEHICLE?
Which ones. Define. Be exact.
Just like all tanks?
500 games. I have that in my 40mm SPAAGs alone. When you have my experience you can tell me I’m wrong.
It does when everyone has more games than you in SPAAG.
bro just tossed obvious/normal things mixed with misinformation
but by the end of the day the aswer is just that it isnt rewarding enough, i only had fun with 2 SPAA (type 93 because fast and type 81 because almost impossible to miss), but since the map weather update 80% of my matches are ginourmous just clouds above all of the map, which makes AA with no radar very frustrating to play
Similar BR and rate of fire to the Ostwind, but that one only gets one gun.
Maybe the US shoulda made better HE shells for their SPAAs. Germany did, and the Ostwinds get two HE shells to choose from.
The M247, objectively, did not work. Saying “I don’t welcome tanks that didn’t even work IRL” means the M247 is getting removed, among others.
ok in all fairness, the people who complain the most about CAS (Germany and Russia mains) play those nations specifically to avoid needing to aim. People who start off with America need to learn aiming for weakspots. This means when switching to a nation with actually good SPAA like France, Italy, or Britain It’s not that hard to learn how to use it.
I personally use SPAA only for tasks in battlepass and I always use SAM(Ito 90M, Type 93, Type 81 or Santal) as it is easier to achieve. Sometimes I take WZ305 as it is only SPAAG worth taking. However if there is no task, there is also no reason to play SPAA. I rather play one tank lineup so I do not have to deal with CAS. SPAA gameplay is just boring and also unfair as CAS have all advantages over SPAA. Most SPAAG are not fun to use against CAS and also most SPAAG are not that effective and fun against tanks. I personally avoid IFVs with autocannons as well.
How does playing Germany or Russia mean you don’t have to aim?
The M19 is .7 higher with half the fire rate (250 rpm for Ostwind and 120 rpm for M19) of the Ostwind. This is so blatantly false.
I’m not quite understanding how these range rings work. Mind explaining how exactly they work? I get the general idea of “if plane is fully inside the smallest circle, it is too far away to bother shooting at.” I also sorta get the idea in the second picture of “if plane is around the size of the second inner ring, it’s much closer (500-600m away).”
But how do those range rings help with leading the guns even when you do see the plane is nearing the correct distance?
The M19 sits higher due to having 80mm pen AP rounds.
The Ostwind would be similar or slightly higher in BR if it had the same 93mm pen APCR the reserve-tier 37mm tank cannon its weapon is adapted from. It is, after all, larger and slower than the M19 by quite a lot.
His argument was that the M19 could rather easily shoot down planes and said it was the same as the Ostwind in that regard, which is clearly not true. Nothing about GTs. Also, aircraft cannon do not always have the same penetration qualities as the tank version be cause of the fact they need to rapid fire.
Be careful what you wish for
Gaijin does not model malfunctions, and for good reason.
It would be frustrating, and not fun at all.
To track ? Only Ivkv 9040 is able to track targets ingame …
I’m not quite 100 percent on it either since I haven’t had time to really experiment with them yet. I’ll get back to you about it when I find some good info for them.
120rpm per gun, it gets two for 240rpm. Ostwind 2 has the same listed RoF as the Ostwind - 250rpm.
M19 gets 72mm pen AP vs 49mm on the Ostwind, and its two guns will resist overheating far more.
I think when you do, you should make it its own post, just to separate it from the needless bickering in this thread.
Gaijin does not model malfunctions
They modeled lower German armor quality for years however.
Germany and Russia (along with Sweden aswell) consistantly keep the strongest cannons of any nation whilst also keeping HE filler. They also face almost exclusively light/medium tanks when paired together.
since it has 2 bofors, it’s technically 240 rpm, but yeah their BRs are insanely unfair.
not really. tanks like the Panther D/A/G/F still shrug off shots from American 90mm, 17pdr, and large HE shells like M107.
Germany and Russia (along with Sweden aswell) consistantly keep the strongest cannons of any nation whilst also keeping HE filler. They also face almost exclusively light/medium tanks when paired together.
They also drive square boxes with ammo storage at the worst possible locations, courtesy of Gaijin.
not really. tanks like the Panther D/A/G/F still shrug off shots from American 90mm, 17pdr, and large HE shells like M107.
They literally had a negative armor multiplier of 0.95 because gErmAn qUalIty.
Not the USSR though, only the finest equipment for them.
That happened to alot of American tanks aswell like the M41 or T92.
That’s still not much of a nerf. Gajin’s crappy shell simulation adds more than that multiplier takes away.