Why do so many people hate SPAAG

I’ve found that using aim from gunner sight in the Gepard to be more accurate, it seems the IRST lead indicator takes into account parallax from your gunner sight but doesn’t translate well into breech or barrel aiming, hence why most shots feel off or rather too short. But then again that’s just the Gepard, I haven’t tried it with other radar SPAAGs.

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Hmmm… that is an interesting shout. I shall have to give that a try the next time I play that BR. Definetly sounds like something Gaijin would do…

Bruh, I will try this tonight. Never even thought about that.

Personally I research SPAA lines last. Its just not worth it to me to spend the same amount of time researching SPAA vehicles with limited use when I can use the time to research tank lines.

Can’t wait for Gaijin to patch it out lol, can’t have fun.

@ZendikarHaven and @GoneToTheAether here is the link for the sight pack. It is massive and has RB sights, SB sights, AB sights, AA rings for pretty much everything and every ammo type for barrel sight and real sight positions. It’s all in the link: WT Live // Sight by Minedeployder
It may make your game take an extra bit to load, but it is amazing and has sights that allow range estimation and whatnot for specific ammo types.

I just wanna say it took forever for me to find, and I had to sift through all the weebery on WT live…

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There’s also the problem that the Ostwind 2 is far more powerful than any SPAA other nations get, and even without it Germany still has the wirbelwind which is extremely strong.

Not like it really matters, Wirbelwind or Ostwind are barely any different, the Wirbel is a better SPAA anyways

@GoneToTheAether, @ZendikarHaven here are some screenshots for the M-42 Duster of the sight from the pack. One is zoomed out and one is zoomed in perspective.



They at a minimum give reference points to be able to walk in your shots, and when learned how to properly be used could give much more accurate range/speed estimates.

I honestly wish Gaijin would permanently implement most of the sights in this pack into game. I feel it would greatly improve everyone’s experience and encourage better play. The work is already there too.

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Ostwind 2’s turret armor is impenetrable to 20mm and .50cals and its 30mm has a higher chance to 1-shot when it hits wings/tails of large bombers.
Simply put, it’s far more annoying to fight, and there’s no reason to keep it in the game.

Nah, it’s a very good SPAA. Plus it’s mentioned a prototype existed in a book.

Removing the M247 immediately then.

They are capable of shooting down planes.

WZ305 is arguably the most effective spaa at its tier.

M53/59 is better in pretty much every way.

It isn’t, and you can MG the gunner from the front with 7.62s.

It’s a 37mm, and it has a shitload of explosives.

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Only for American players who shouldn’t have access to .50s and such in the first place, for everyone else it’s just a Panzer IV but several BRs higher.

Not nearly to the affect of any other Anti Airs in game (the M19 and also including the other 40mm Bofors machines without radar or HE-VT). They are slow and hard to aim, partially because of server issues but also because of sighting and all that.

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yeah that’s my point

Cope moment.

cost of 70 rp (literally free).

no need to pay for AP and AA tapes.

lack of attachment to weather conditions - where the pilot has clouds in full screen,spaa player sees everything clear

increased survivability of all spas

increased damage to aircraft

reduced damage from aircraft cannons

ability to repair at any time in an open field

ability to take a backup at any time

Many spaa’s brs are too low

Visibility system

ability to be universal - destroy both tanks and air

buddy, go to the techtrees, literally every spaa is strong - against tanks or air, and sometimes against both)

i played enough on anti air and planes to come to my conclusion.

proves nothing.

Like most of air has with 20mm and 12.7mm on lower tiers right?

Because when I play ground battles with ground units, all clouds just disappear, same with snow.

Especially after overpressure was added so all open-tops die from a bomb/rocket that didn’t hit them while aircraft has to be hit.

Anything to back it up?

again, anything to back it up?

While enemies are nearby and You have no AI protecting You.

If You have one.

Which ones?

lmao what?

Only some has that ability, not most.

From WT page about Your account:

Ground battles in SPAA: 509

Spoiler

(https://warthunder.com/en/community/userinfo/?nick=винница%202017)

Should we talk about how well You played them?

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Show me the code. Show it to me. All of your other arguments have been debunked by the guy above me, but I’d love to see where this comes from.

Like EVERY OTHER VEHICLE?

Like EVERY OTHER VEHICLE?

Which ones. Define. Be exact.

Just like all tanks?

500 games. I have that in my 40mm SPAAGs alone. When you have my experience you can tell me I’m wrong.

It does when everyone has more games than you in SPAAG.

bro just tossed obvious/normal things mixed with misinformation

but by the end of the day the aswer is just that it isnt rewarding enough, i only had fun with 2 SPAA (type 93 because fast and type 81 because almost impossible to miss), but since the map weather update 80% of my matches are ginourmous just clouds above all of the map, which makes AA with no radar very frustrating to play

Similar BR and rate of fire to the Ostwind, but that one only gets one gun.

Maybe the US shoulda made better HE shells for their SPAAs. Germany did, and the Ostwinds get two HE shells to choose from.

The M247, objectively, did not work. Saying “I don’t welcome tanks that didn’t even work IRL” means the M247 is getting removed, among others.