Why do so many people hate SPAAG

And people who know how to lead their shots, are able to kill aircrafts, not just talk about it ;)

So is it the ratio that’s making you ignorant, or the fact you genuinely aren’t seeing any plane kills on my SPAA, because you seem to be drastically mistaken in your interpretation of the stats as facts…

That’s where your error is, now please, stop trying to make out my stats are trash as your metric is skewed, and septic.

And again, stop bloating the topic with your ignorance in this factor.

For damn sake dude just ignore him, you do this every damn time, in these forums, where you either aggressively respond to everything or respond to everything so dang on defensively, you are not helping the issue, nor adding onto the discussion, you are just making it worse.

@Pacifica

It needs to be shown for what it is… The constant stat checking and deriding, insinuating that the stats are bad based on thier opposition of what’s said…

It’ll be taken care of.

Like, hell, all I said was a mere statement, and he went straight for the stats and insinuating I was trash… I hope you reported thier posts for that, right?

It’s not ‘me’ doing it every time, it’s every time I say something, they come at me throwing my stats in my face telling me I don’t know the game… What in the hell is thier issue, because other than trying to beat thier own chest, I can’t see any reason for it…

Leave that to the mods, you are not a mod, it is not your job, not your role as a random forum user. So quit it, you’re only digging yourself a hole. I don’t like ULQ and many other people, however, unless the mods remove them then it is not my say where i stand.

Then stop debating it.

You’re not the mod, and all I’m doing is highlighting how their statchecking is ignorant of the point and is based on thier perception.

If they keep doing it, then you should be seeing it and reporting it yourself, but I feel you’re reporting me for being insulted and attacked.

That’s the stance you’re seeming to take, and that seems prejudiced.

You aren’t either, so why are you “highlighting/Stat checking”? The fact your so defensively trying to deflect the fact that your causing a rackus isn’t helping your case.

Everything you try point out, is a result of your throwout about how I always do this.

And I have a right to defend myself against these ignorant attacks and assumptions.

With a low skill crew when people are first introduced to SPAA - there’s a significant difference.

You can track a tank without having to adjust vertical guidance on your cannon, so vertical and horizontal moving in sequence rather than concurrently allows you to deal with light tanks and armoured cars whizzing across a flat plain or even hilly terrain without much difficulty.

Whereas, if the plane is within effective range for early SPAA guns, it will be moving in such a way that you need to track your guns diagonally to lead them which will be noticably painful to do.

And simply turret traverse is much more impactful as well. Either from targetting skill or using stock vs spaded vehicle.

First impressions matter a lot, and even if these challenges fade away after getting ~3 or so targetting, you will be averse to playing SPAA again as you recall how clunky its controls were. It also doesn’t help that you had to get crew XP by putting a non-SPAA tank into that crew slot unless the nation/BR you have SPAA access can function decently as a tank destroyer.

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All changes with practice, that’s how it always comes to be.

Avoiding it makes you unable to use it because the choice you made to assume you couldn’t makes it clear you won’t.

The problem remains that you need fairly high crew skills for aiming to work normally, which is a significant handicap at equal player skill.

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Mate you’re having a hissy fit with a guy, who knows how to irritate people with very unpopular opinions. Then get mad when others tell you to drop it cause it’s a waste of breath, off-topic, and causing a bunch of problems that didn’t exist prior and creating a very unhealthy toxic echo chamber. So I don’t know if I’m so-called doing a “throwout”. For pointing out the hipocracy of what actions.

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Crew skills aren’t everything, and they can be improved.

That’s just your opinion about what transpired, much the same as you mentioning that it’s all the time…

How prejudiced can you be. Stop bloating the topic and derailing it.

Am I not allowed to defnd myself, and am I not allowed to point out that my point has no bearing on what they’re trying to put forth?

There’s nothing echochamber about this situation, it’s all about your ignoring of what’s being said in effort to make accusations.

That isn’t always an option unless you want to die to opposing enemy tanks much more easily

You don’t need to head on into battle, you can move laterally.

Just don’t be sitting where everyone is actually spawning. You can literally be in the trees or next to the hills that surround the spawn.

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Some people will tell imaginary things in order to protect the kind of gameplay they like, glad we can look at their profile and see how things really are.

The best solution against air is and always was the air. SPAA in most cases are not effective enough.

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A number of reasons - but from my perspective it’s before radar…

  1. SPAA is hard to mod up in assault - almost always at bottom of scoring unless you play the anti-tank vehicle disguised as spaa (ZSU-57-2). So they often are lucky to go into battles P v P with just the parts module

  2. Many of them are terrible for capping, so it removes one way of scoring right off the bat. Sure a number of them are ok for it, but the lack of armor, or slow speed like the german rank III and IV vehicles, but most cases it would be foolish to head into enemy fire

  3. In realistic, the CAS just moves too fast and is quite hard to spot. Scoring there with SPAA is sparse.

  4. some tech trees just have poor selection for the rank - example is USA. They get the M42 at start of rank III, then NOTHING at all in rank V. Once I hit BR 6+ I stopped using spaa because it can’t handle rank V enemies. The 120 rnds/minute is awful. It’s more useful against ground vehicles than air.

Finally got the LAV-AD .At first I was struggling, but once I got the FIM-92K, I was able to down more CAS a bit easier. What is the difference between the FIM-92E and the K?? Tried searching in the Forum but its a lot to search and read soo rather ask.

K have proximity fuse, E - doesn’t