What does all this have to do with …
“Why do CAS players so vocally oppose any suggestions”
CAS. That’s the only correlation.
You understand how B.R. works?
You understand that Jumbo 75 is 1 B.R. lower than Jagdtiger?
You understand that IF Jumbo 75 and Jagdtiger could fight each other without any problem than both would be at the same B.R.?
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Well by that logic, let’s put the A-4E at 7.7. It’s still POSSIBLE for 6.7s to shoot it down, much like it’s POSSIBLE for a Jumbo to destroy the barrel and tracks of a Jagdtiger and wait for your teammates to kill it.
You see the stupidity in the argument you made right?
Yes … Let’s just stay off topic. It’s probably for the best.
You understand that B.R. are decided based on many factors not only that there is one vechicle which might have a problem with frontally destroying Jagdtiger at full uptier?
You get that there is even a 4.0 vechicle that can destroy it from any distance (or there are even lower, I don’t remember all vechicles from the game)?
Jagdtiger has gun of 4.3 tank destroyer and without its armor it would be at 4.3. His armor allows him to sometimes be able to defend against enemies frontally. If You could just destroy him with a Jumbo 75 then there would be really no point in using it.
You don’t have to rely on teammates to destroy it.
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Oh yes, Sweden gets all the uptier immunity toys (even CCRP at 4.3). Meanwhile America has 1-2 br out-of-date guns and armor in exchange for turret rotation and a .50cal, and OCCASIONALLY some mobility. Ofc you don’t care that there’s nearly a dozen American tanks that can do nothing but sit back and wait for someone else to deal with Jagdtiger because “mEH ThEY’RE LOwEr BR”
This get’s really bad at the 6.7-7.7 area where everyone else starts getting HEAT-FS, and America is still left with either 150-250mm pen APHE, British grade APDS, or a 200mm pen mockery of a HEATFS.
I’m sorry but the only vehicle America has that can reliable deal with IS series tanks or German TDs being a turretless armorless goblin (M56) isn’t exactaly ideal in a game where the goal is to capture and defend certain points.
The T32 and T26E5 are great, but you NEED something like an M56 to back up any assault when a Jagdtiger rolls on to the battlefield. Meanwhile the Jagdtiger can take out any tank it faces from America with no support needed ever.
TL:DR America being behind in firepower means CAS is NEEDED to stay even semi-competitive.
They don’t have to, You just need to play the game well.
You don’t need it.
It is not, You just need to get better.
I agree, you need to just play the game better to deal with CAS>
You can’t turn Your tank into SPAA/Air, but You can always use Your tank well in order to deal with other tanks.
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You can’t always make you tank swim, but who cares? You don’t need to anyways.
And this, is why statshaming should be brought back as a rule… It derails a thread faster than anything, brings nothing to the discussion, and is a mere ignorance flex.
But You can always use it better and deal with targets as many do.
Ngl I think CAS hates and stat shamers are tied for derailing threads faster.
I agree. You can always use it better and deal with planes* as many do.
Oh, especially when tanks can’t shoot at the aircraft because of the limited angle and that planes can always do another run at You ;).
Sorry but You need to learn Your tanks first.
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Oh so you’re very quick to provide no solution other than “git gud” fighting a Jagdtiger with a Jumbo 75, but when YOU struggle with CAS, clearly it’s the people who fend off perfectly fine who have the skill issue and not you. very convincing and unbiased argument you have there.
The difference is that I can fight Jagdtiger with Jumbo 75 without an issue as both of us have some pros and cons (not to mention again that we are talking about full uptier).
While when planes comes from an angle I can’t aim my gun at with 500kg bomb and lands it on me I can’t do anything about it. Sorry but no matter what You do, a good pilot will always be able to destroy Your tank while in tank vs tank situation You always have a chance to fight back. How do I know it? I fly myself.
Strange, I don’t have those issues against CAS. Guess it’s me who has the skill issue.
If You die faster than CAS can appear then You won’t have that problems.
On the contrary You can see my stats on USA tanks and see that I’m not bluffing, USA is my favourite nation ;).
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