See what I just put…
HILARIOUS, because you can choose to spawn it first… How blind are you to the game and options that you have?
Especially when You want to play tanks, right!
We get a full bingo!
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That’s just part of it, but the team is there, you can choose to ignore it, but it’s still there.
Your statchecking can’t make that go away.
So why bother with any balancing? Why Maus is not on 1.0? You have a team so someone could spawn a plane and kill it right?
You can play tanks only, but it’ll mean you’re going to end up with problems… This is after all a combined game, not just tanks like you want.
More absurdium makes it clear you cannot actually hold a discussion as you project that you can…
If only all people in this game had that problem… not like air players can play a mode where there are only air controlled vehicles, right?
You don’t have to answear the question and avoid it as much as You want but this is what “team” argument brings as into, but hey, more “I can’t see it so it is not there!”
Had my laugh, but this is going in circles like it was for many many comments in this and many topics. Good that previously You have showed that the only argument against addition of another mode that would give other people fun that You have is “They can’t have it because I don’t want them to have it!”
The longest range AGMs can be fired from 20km out. The EF2000 and Rafale both have extremely powerful CAS equipment and the best flight performance in the game.
By comparison only one nation gets access to a SAM that in perfect conditions might reach 18km. The actual effective range is ~12km.
For other nations’ SAMs, its lower.
So no, there is nothing that ground players can do against a competent CAS player; even at low-mid tier they are severely disadvantaged due to bombsights having near perfect accuracy.
On the way = not here, with no guarantee of its future performance.
It does actually, see the line: “The situation where aircraft can attack tanks from a safe distance with impunity makes gameplay more boring for aviation and less fair for ground vehicles”
Then you’re not influencing the match and have ensured your team is at a great disadvantage. You’re also not playing tanks anymore, nor are you getting good RP earnings.
Additionally, you also run the risk of no planes spawning (ergo you have to J-out and ditch your SPAA to play the game), or you get outranged by CAS (easily doable at any tier), or a ground vehicle shows up and kills you.
Due to all of the above it is not an option.
Problems bigger than being able to spawn a vehicle against which 99% of the enemy team has no counterplay?
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There’s no question, your absurdium and mocking isn’t going to cut it in a discussion…
I don’t see anywhere near as many complaining about being got in game as I see on the thread here, so it’s really not as widespread as you’d want to make out that it is.
This old tired argument is so dim that it needs to be put to bed… Out back, old yella style…
Stop trying to make my point for me, my point is distincly that it’s part of the game, there ARE counters for it, and you are merely statchecking to shame to counter most of those points, which leads me to believe you really don’t have any true ability to counter what’s been said so you rile up to spam like you do on the regular, ending up in your throwing out personal attacks and vitriol uncontested.
My stat card shouldn’t be your first go-to, but it has become that, and that leads me to ultimately believe that you are at a complete loss for true discussion, as it goes both ways, and you solely want yours, not anyone elses…
And that is why things are ‘vocal’ because you draw the argument out, and encourage dogpiling.
99% of stats are made up on the fly, and quite frankly, you are…
The SPAAs that are coming will at least do something to change the ‘’‘‘balance’’’ that peopel perceieve, but no doubt when peopel still die to air they’ll whinge about it not being fixed…
So what % of the enemy team do you think is SPAA? At the start of the game it’ll seldom be 0%.
The point of an Anti Air Vehicle is to keep planes away from them, yes. If it fails at doing that, then its obviously not working properly.
Are you going to address the rest or?
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There is as it is what “team” arguments brings us to. Again, You make not like it but this is how things are.
Especially when people bring evidence showing them using such weapons… good try.
Argument is still there, avoiding it won’t make it disappear.
Which are not good and Your own in-game profile tells that.
It never was, You failing to provide any evidence led up to it.
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Indeed it is, but if no-one even tries to use it, it does nothing for deterence…
It’s up to players and you, to choose what to spawn… If you know planes will spawn, then prepare…
Do you even carry SPAA in your lineup as I know people still don’t. That’s what the issue truely is… People complain that they shouldn’t ‘have’ to, and then don’t, but still complain that they get bombed.
No, it’s become a common thing with you, and telling others to check it just to dismiss… It’s a reason why your take on that card is skewed because you ignore that I don’t care about my KDR as much as you do, and still play the game to win and promote my team to victory.
Pity you can’t see positivity because you espose the negativity as you do.
The only winning move is to not play.
Except you never know if they’ll spawn because it’s OPTIONAL.
However you know tanks will spawn so it is far more valuable to bring a tank instead and actually help your team.
Usually at least 3. But after people see they can’t bomb tanks for free with no resistance they usually give up, and so they become dead weight.
Spawning SPAA after getting bombed isn’t gonna stop you from getting bombed
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Incorrect… That’s a losing tactic.
But you can make sure of that, by spawning it…
All the better to bomb.
So you’re saying they work… WHO’D HAVE THOUGHT…
Dying is a part of the game, being hooked up on how you die is the issue you really have…
And to stop that, you can spawn something to counter that threat. If you don’t spawn it, then they have free reign…
You can see flying Doctor has flagged my post and screamed for his moderator friend .Well at least we can all see who is doing the flagging on here. Just proves my point that is all.So much for trying to have a decent conversation .Like I said do yourself a favour and put him on ignore.
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And making sure that your team has at least one player who is completely useless.
My SPAA works just fine. The ground ones don’t:
This guy J’d out when I dodged all his SAMs, one by one, and started turning towards him to strafe him:
Should be quite clear where the balance stands, and it’s not in ground-based SPAA.
And here you unintentionally pointed out exactly WHY CAS is unbalanced: CAS always has targets available, SPAA does not.
So as ULQ said above, we move the Maus down to 1.0. After all, dying is part of the game and plenty of players will die to it.
If you want to kill it, you spawn the Stuka with the 1000kg bomb to counter it. Easy!
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I played a new map today for the first time.I didn’t know it so I used the terrain as best as I could to try and get to grips with it. I didn’t do too badly but the CAS just spoiled the party.I didn’t want to do CAS I wanted to learn not just jump in a plane and mindlessly bomb from up high with a 111 as I normally do even if it gives me a couple of kills for sure.
Tank people shouldn’t be ridiculed for loving an element of this game nor should they be forced to play planes when they dont want to.Flyers have a dedicated flying game so it makes sense to have GRB with no CAS.
I have cried out ,nearly begged Gaijin to make CAS for Israel and Sweden or give us a good Sky raider premium for the Yanks at 6-7 BR and nothing so to say its all about Premium planes and Gaijin losing revenue is BS.
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Well I finally relented and read your interacting and boy is it a poisonous,self obsessed diatribe. You really are a narcissist and cant help but attack people who don’t see things your way.True to form Pacifica will come on here ,wipe your arse for you and ban me again.This forum would be so much nicer if people like you went instead of people like me.
I would hate to be a new player and first time poster and have you as the first person I encountered.
The amount of help ULQ has given to people on here is balanced only by your vile tone.
This is what the forum should be about.Helping each other not pushing a personal personality disorder and making every topic and viewpoint about you.
Try and either be nicer to people or cut through the BS and get to the point without getting sh***y
Interesting enough is the OP question “Why do CAS players so vocally oppose any suggestions” .In your case it is because you are a narcissist and don’t want anybody to have a differing opinion let alone a game you don’t agree with.
I don’t see a No CAS GRB as harming anybody.I don’t see navy harming anybody and I don’t play it. Let those who want to play arcade play it ,I hate Arcade.
What I don’t play does not bother me and I don’t need to attack arcade players and berate them.
I’ve mentioned this is exploiting elsewhere but apparently air players deserve this sort of thing…
This is driven by the mentality put forth in this thread and others like it.
You’re being hypocritical and directly ignorant to the statements made… After all, I didn’t say it was in anyones favour, I merely pointed out the methods which many avoid, to keep playing thier tanks is just leaving themselves open to being bombed…
Sure, take thier absurdium kool aid… It doesn’t make your point in any way, in fact, it just shows you have nothing more than dogpiling and absurdium to barricade your complaint.
Which is where this thread is fixated.
If it’s part of the game, there is no ridicule, it’s about playing the game as it is, not how you think it should be when it isn’t.
You haven’t got a tank only mode, so you shouldn’t be playing ‘just tanks’ to play the victim.
I’ve shot down many of those, so your making out that it’s the be-all-end-all is ignorant.
If there’s planes about, then they are far from useless, infact, they could easily be the MVP because they save the team from being bombed.
BUT ONLY IF THEY ACTUALLY CHOOSE TO SPAWN IT AND PLAY IT ACCORDINGLY…
But hey, I suppose I’m the one who needs the psychiatrists couch for the fact that I’m actually playing the game and enjoying it rather than being bitter and upset that I got got… /s
The gymnasitics in this thread is olympic grade…
You’re one to talk…