The comment I made doesn’t have to apply in the context you wish it to be, factually it’s correct.
You don’t HAVE to spawn a tank first, you don’t HAVE to be vulnerable.
Indeed we have, yet they still keep coming back to this one because there are no alternatives.
All those times people were all crazy mad making out the game is dying, that the ‘alternative’ will kill the game, but yet, everyone is still here, and that alternative went to trash.
You point this out a lot, and almost dare Gaijin to try do something for you, but it’s just you…
Please read the discussion next time.
Tank on a battlefield can’t counter CAS and will have to firstly die to spawn SPAA, which is the point of this discussion.
Even the APHE yaks don’t care about SPAA except as potential targets. Only way an APHE yak ever gets shot down is if there’s like 2-3 SPAA shooting at it making it impossible to dodge, an SPAA and a fighter are shooting at it and the APHE yak decided to sit near enemy spawn the entire dogfight or the yak decides for some absurd reason to head-on the SPAA rather than kill all the other easier targets.
Like. I’m decent with planes. Average or below average with tanks. There’s certainly something to be said about the imbalance of CAS vs SPAA where I have successfully used the APHE yak to do last BP’s “Get 12 professional x5” streaks and not a tank.
I read the discussion, doesn’t change the fact.
Obviously you have to die if you decide to not first spawn SPAA, which is on you.
Where is the problem if you die once, you go in with a lineup of multiple tanks, if you decide not to, it’s also on you.
Dude, very few players start with spaa - since there are no air attacks right away.
Unless you have one of those “spaa” freaks like the tank-destroyer-in-disguise, the ZSU-57.
And of course the ZSU does NOT excel at shooting down jets.
Face it - CAS is a crutch and a legal cheat in a TANK battle-mode. If you can’t root out the “campers” with artillery or other tanks (like say… M109 with proximity ammo) then you or your team have your own issues.
Cool that there is no such thing, and it’s hardly a cheat… It’s just effective and able to be used so much that people get irrationally upset and hooked up on it being such a problem that they ignore it, and break-down when they get got by it.
It is a fairly easy way to do well in a vehicle that under performs or when you have not been having a good game in tanks alone.
There will never be a tank only mode as Gaijins vision is for combined arms but only for ground and naval, I have yet to spawn in a tank or vessel in a air match to date, plus the plane aspect shortens the game as sub ten minutes games are what the company desires to recycle players into the queues.
Reducing queue times comes at a cost, normally to player enjoyment and engagement a price Gaijin is more than willing to pay.
And that’s the point. It’s disproportionately effective.
And of course it’s not cheating - hence “legal cheat”. You are destroying TANKS in a TANK BATTLE mode from above.
And you know full well why CAS is used as much as possible - because it’s an easier way to get kills.
It’s an easier way because most spaa are at a disadvantage. The planes are not spotted as they should be and they don’t make nearly enough noise. “Realistic” - that’s laughable.
That’s a very big part of the point, but the ignorance to the counters and suggestions to actually think differently than just assuming you will die and nothing can be done other than complain on the forum to get the game changed have a greater part to play.
People refuse to even bring SPAA in thier lineups, and get abusive to the enemy who got them, further letting the enemy know they’re not going to have much trouble from the team.
Again, you are not the only person on your team, there’s another 15 people available to perform a role and a well balanced team will have more success than a spam of the latest and greatest vehicle when everyone complains about that situation.
You aren’t the only one on your team, you aren’t helpless, no matter how much you proclaim you can flail your arms about.
Well done on showing that the only thing you can do is revenge bomb… hurr durr…
Game gives me 15 random people and they can do whatever they like. It sucks seeing TAM being helpless against the 1.3 BR flying menace, but that’s how the game has been set up.
I guess it’s his fault for not dodging or trying to run, or spawning AA first instead of TAM, he absolutely paid the price for his unwise decisions.
Imagine playing tanks in GRB, right ?
He was helpless there.
His “team” betrayed him and he could do nothing about it.
Poor fellow have ODL’d after getting shamefully defecated on by 60kg bombs.
He got to a really nice spot early on, having fun shooting at enemies and reaping rightful rewards. Sadly, his fun got interrupted by something he had zero (0) chances of countering from the get go, but that’s life in WT where crutches are the most powerful assets on the battlefield.