The fact you misinterpret what was said, shows you have no interest for engaement other than to shout me down.
It’s not my fault.
Nope… If you think there’s gaps in the SPAA counters, then suggest additions.
Just your interpretation, which is a jaded one at that.
Not useless at all, much the same as tanks aren’t helpless, but hapless.
If they can’t be left to select a target, or find a lesser target such as you to waste thier ammo on, then you’ve done the team a favor.
I’m not the one who doesn’t understand the context ;).
One day maybe You will understand that some people just want to play tanks not SPAA or Air
You’re the one trying to push the context, where the context doesn’t apply.
Then one day you’ll come to understand that the game isn’t about your demands or wants, and that conversation and discussion doesn’t just go one way.
Please describe based on the quote itself and comments before it why it doesn’t apply.
The game is about what players want, that is just a fact. Recently we have seen what happens to the games that doesn’t listen to players opinions ;)
The comment I made doesn’t have to apply in the context you wish it to be, factually it’s correct.
You don’t HAVE to spawn a tank first, you don’t HAVE to be vulnerable.
Indeed we have, yet they still keep coming back to this one because there are no alternatives.
All those times people were all crazy mad making out the game is dying, that the ‘alternative’ will kill the game, but yet, everyone is still here, and that alternative went to trash.
You point this out a lot, and almost dare Gaijin to try do something for you, but it’s just you…
No, it’s a fact.
Not being able to fire at, let alone kill something you’re supposed to be a counter to makes you literally useless.
They can select whatever target they want, as your SPAA can’t touch them. They’re free to shoot whoever they like.
You also have to die to spawn CAS.
What stupid argument is this.
Please read the discussion next time.
Tank on a battlefield can’t counter CAS and will have to firstly die to spawn SPAA, which is the point of this discussion.
Even the APHE yaks don’t care about SPAA except as potential targets. Only way an APHE yak ever gets shot down is if there’s like 2-3 SPAA shooting at it making it impossible to dodge, an SPAA and a fighter are shooting at it and the APHE yak decided to sit near enemy spawn the entire dogfight or the yak decides for some absurd reason to head-on the SPAA rather than kill all the other easier targets.
Like. I’m decent with planes. Average or below average with tanks. There’s certainly something to be said about the imbalance of CAS vs SPAA where I have successfully used the APHE yak to do last BP’s “Get 12 professional x5” streaks and not a tank.
But the comment that was made by @MotorolaCRO applies to what I have said.
Again, no one said that You can’t spawn SPAA as first vehicle.
Nice to hear Your opinion, facts are different.
Read the discussion before replying.
I read the discussion, doesn’t change the fact.
Obviously you have to die if you decide to not first spawn SPAA, which is on you.
Where is the problem if you die once, you go in with a lineup of multiple tanks, if you decide not to, it’s also on you.
Dying to something you couldn’t counter from the start is the problem.
You are funny dude. Comical. LOLOLOL
Dude, very few players start with spaa - since there are no air attacks right away.
Unless you have one of those “spaa” freaks like the tank-destroyer-in-disguise, the ZSU-57.
And of course the ZSU does NOT excel at shooting down jets.
Face it - CAS is a crutch and a legal cheat in a TANK battle-mode. If you can’t root out the “campers” with artillery or other tanks (like say… M109 with proximity ammo) then you or your team have your own issues.
Cool that there is no such thing, and it’s hardly a cheat… It’s just effective and able to be used so much that people get irrationally upset and hooked up on it being such a problem that they ignore it, and break-down when they get got by it.
It is a fairly easy way to do well in a vehicle that under performs or when you have not been having a good game in tanks alone.
There will never be a tank only mode as Gaijins vision is for combined arms but only for ground and naval, I have yet to spawn in a tank or vessel in a air match to date, plus the plane aspect shortens the game as sub ten minutes games are what the company desires to recycle players into the queues.
Reducing queue times comes at a cost, normally to player enjoyment and engagement a price Gaijin is more than willing to pay.
If you can’t kill a plane you or your team have issues.
Mask off troll moment
And that’s the point. It’s disproportionately effective.
And of course it’s not cheating - hence “legal cheat”. You are destroying TANKS in a TANK BATTLE mode from above.
Nice to know you have no original thoughts…
And you know full well why CAS is used as much as possible - because it’s an easier way to get kills.
It’s an easier way because most spaa are at a disadvantage. The planes are not spotted as they should be and they don’t make nearly enough noise. “Realistic” - that’s laughable.