Of course You have a choice, You just don’t fight it frontally. When facing the air I can’t do anything if pilot wants to kill me.
No cover is going to save You from 500kg bomb landing on You or near You with (1.5s delay in detonation). Air always have the upper hand as it doesn’t have to bomb You at the exact moment but can take another approach where You are vulnerable.
That is great, but some tanks don’t have it and in most cases it has very limited angle, so if You don’t fight against a clueless pilot, You won’t be able to do anything about it.
But just because You are going to limit the problem happening doesn’t mean that the problem gets fixed.
With TO all people who just want a tank vs tank gameplay would go to other mode meaning combined mode would balane itself out as all people playing it would be doing so for combined aspect of it.
Britain for instance has zero SPAA between 5.3 Bosvark (big fat pregnant cow drunk on 10 liters of vodka that turns slower than an F84B) and the 8.3 falcon. Oh, and your entire crew is exposed to the point that any stray shots will massacre you.
If you want to keep the air clear of enemies at 7.7, you’ve far more luck spawning a spitfire than the bosvark.
If you’re playing against america, the skies are full of enemies.
Therefore, it’s not really a choice
“Just spawn SPAA lmao skill issue” is not viable because of the aforementioned enormous SPAA gap. Compare the bosvark against the wiesel or luchs, or even the m163.
So you spawn CAP.
You need over fifty, sixty games at ~3000 RP above-average performance in the Centurion to get your next tank.
Split that 3000 RP in half for a “died after 12 minutes, respawned a spitfire”, with half getting wasted on your plane and you now need over a hundred games to finally round out your line-up.
They can easily learn and be finding help with people, but much of the advice from the occupants of this thread would be to not bother, just spawn a plane, then wonder why you can’t get all the kills others proclaim they do when they get shot down and can’t respawn.
That’s the issue with this defeatist mentality, where there’s nothing to do because no-one wants to do it because they think there’s no option.
The basic response to all of this back and forth is you want to not spawn SPAA, but spawn a plane, but if you die and lose that SP then you’re not going to spawn again, where you can spawn SPAA for a fraction of the SP cost, and spawn again, and again, with the amount of SP that is required for a plane.
And whilst you may not do any good in those SPAAs, if you weren’t there, the air would have free reign, and they’d be absolutely free to destroy your team.
It’s a choice to solely spawn a plane as soon as they die in the first few minutes of the match because that’s all they have found progress in, but it doesn’t mean that it’s the only option, or that it’s the best option.
In order to get in SPAA I firstly must lose my previous vehicle.
Even if you’re aware and “prepared”, some vehicles simply cannot do anything to planes, which is the main problem.
Spawning a 5.3 SPAA that can barely drive, turn and has its entire crew exposed at 7.7 when you got things like marders, wiesels, bmps driving around is certainly a very smart decision.
That’s only if you want to spawn a plane… That’s your misplaced aim.
It’s not the only option as you want to put out.
Nope, not at all…
The game has respawns, you all being so precious about dying in a PvP game makes it almost a thing to point out that you could go play the PvE side of it and unlock those things you need to avoid the mere fact of dying.
You spawn in, plane rockets spawn/strafes spawn and die.
You spawn in and drive out of spawn and follow your team. Modern IFV zips past your team and kills your exposed crew as you’re unable to return fire due to the cab giving you enormous dead zones.
There’s a reason why the bosvark is 5.3 and the marder/wiesel are 7.3.
Why are you expecting people to use a 5.3 vehicle at 7.7 and call it a “choice.”
Your “choice” is:
Let the enemy planes stay in the air and get bombed/strafed/rocketed
Spawn 5.3 SPAA at 7.7 that’s impotent in all but firepower and get strafed or taken out by enemy ground vehicles if you do leave spawn
Spawn a plane and lose all RP gains towards your desired tank WHILE also making far less RP than if you did ARB. Maybe even air sim might give you more RP despite the useless action system (Looking at screenshots, P-51H gives 3K RP if you max out the 92% reward if you land after 15 minutes, F3H-2 gives 4000 RP at nearly maxed out reward cycle. 7.7 planes should give somewhere in between)
It is a dim argument because it’s deadset in the 'can’t situation, and it’s leading to this ‘You dying is bad for the team’ which makes peopel precious and blamey about who was responsible for the ‘loss’ where the aim to play the objective isn’t just about kills.
And that’s the most idiotic point that has come from these forums and discussions.
And they need to be more wary…
And as I said, SPAA is there, and so is your ability to spawn planes… It’s not actually unable to be countered, it’s just YOU can’t counter them other than to spawn a plane because you are unable to use SPAA.
Because it is a choice NOT to spawn it, and write it off as ‘useless’, where it’s far from that.
Cool story, but you said you posted a video… One video…