Well look above certain people think there is nothing wrong at all with 20+ km fire and forget missiles against 10km line of sight aa
I didn’t say that, and you’ve not posed that as a scenario, someone else did, and I responded to them with the same message.
So we… give other nations comparable AA to the pantsir, and increase the SP cost of said AGMs.
Seems fairly simple to me tbh.
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Yea, but they don’t want that, as that requires them to use SPAA that do nothing against tanks…
Give them the ability to dumb-fire their AAMs as a last resort, despite some ahistoricality to it. Solves that problem fairly easily imo.
They’ll be wanting AB lead markers next though, and that’s the true problem. The demand to be holding hands…
Why not?
I am fine with that has long it has a Fair Chance
But If I have an AA that can Not deal with tanks and planes we are Having a problem
AB lead markers? No. Limited lead at close ranges when the aircraft is spotted? Yes.
(This is mainly for lower tier AA, especially those with lower firerates.)
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‘Fair’ is interpretational…
No thanks, they need to actually get good. People say they can’t possibly learn to lead shoot, but I disagree, and the fact that people get upset at how they die quickly and don’t actually try to learn, is a problem for the player, not the game.
Yet when shown that we CAN deal with them just fine on both ends, you default to your lowest effort reply of “its always been like this” where suddenly your claim of us being somehow unable to deal with CAS - lol, lmao even:
-is completely evaporated.
I can do this literally every match, but I want to PLAY TANKS instead.
There was nothing they could do since me throwing bombs prevented most from getting spawnpoints. Their AAs couldn’t hit me since I was dropping bombs beyond their effective range thanks to the bombsight, while being relatively small and fast.
But just spawn AA bro
Again 10-12 km line of Sight missiles against 20+ km fire and forget missiles is not fair no matter were you stand
Unless you want to prove my 100km statement correct
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It’s your choice to spawn a plane within the first 5 minutes, you don’t actually need to, and proclaiming that you’re the reason your team won is plain ignorance.
You’re misusing it then, and expecting too much…
And I don’t care for your hypothetical 100km nonsense…
I take that has a yes
Stop trying to make me say things, it’s genuinely bad faith…
It’s actually offensive to the point that it’s why I despise this thread and the ones like it because the SECOND you disagree with someone they’re trying to make statements for you, throw out gotchas like nothing else, and try make scenarios that change the second that anyone actually points out a problem with them.
You can’t get hit by a fire and forget missile if you’re behind cover… If you know a plane is going to spawn, then spawn SPAA…
Stop curling into the fetal position and rocking yourself in tears…
It’s part of the game that you WANT to play, DEAL WITH IT… YOU HAVE COUNTERS.
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You do if you want the ground to be playable, otherwise you’ll have people doing exactly what I did in the D4Y3.
Now tell me, what exactly were those players in tanks supposed to do against a 250kg bomb being dropped on their heads?
Well you weren’t there so you know infinitely less than I do.
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You were the one proclaiming it, and I’m saying that there’s a team that also was there which you ignore…
Pretty simple really.
You can use an SPAA to actually help your team, but you know, gotta waste all those SP to spawn a plane…
It’s not the only option, and it doesn’t need to be a plane to be effective, or to even ward off planes, because without anything there the enemy will be let loose with no counters and will destroy your team.
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They can, but the majority never will for even one gun, let alone the vast amount of ones ingame. @GoneToTheAether has explained this the best imo.
Given the advantage mouse aim gives planes, I think its pretty fair. (Lead would likely have a max range of ~.75/.5km, and wouldnt be perfectly accurate. Its moreso a starting reference, and again, would need the aircraft to be scouted.)
No I don’t
try to hide a top tier aa they are huge and slow
And it doesn’t see stuff behind cover basically you are relatively safe (until the plane comes from a different angle) but your entire team is a free meal
That is if you have cover in the first place on maps like Kursk/firearc you are simply out of Luck
Don’t bother, You wont win with people who are fixated and doesn’t want any discussion.
In some people eyes if You want any change to the current state of things, You are „crying” and have „skill issue” despite how things really are.
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