Oh I’ve seen you make the same claims repeatedly despite them being refuted over and over.
But what I said still stands, and it’s a big part of the reason why I don’t believe we will ever see a TO mode.
But a TO game does exist for anyone who just can’t stand aircraft.
Sorry but none of my claims got refuted.
The only thing that happened is someone said “but muh playerbase split”, as we areadly have 200k players online in certain hours and we don’t know if more would come for the option of playing without the air.
You can continue to insist that, but it isn’t helping your argument, nor your chances of never seeing TO…
Nothing that is said in this topic will change the chance of Gaijin introducing TO or not.
I will keep having fun using the air against ground units that can’t do anything about it and laugh when I read comments on the forum stating that things are not like this.
Well I’ve done that plenty but it doesn’t solve the issue. CAS is too easy to do well in, and even if I can get in a plane and battle after battle shoot all of them down and become an ace with every single match, that’s not making the ground vehicles any more capable of countering a plane with a bomb.
It is not like one of the best tactics You can do is making enemy team spawn as many SPAA as they can making their team unable to fight against tanks.
Yes, but then I get annoyed seeing their tracers coming at me all the time. Though recently I’ve had an enemy SPAA shoot down an enemy plane I was fighting by accident…
That doesn’t really have anything to do with what I said or your position though……
It has to do as much as saying “muh playerbase split” as it can be applied to any new gamemode idea/change that people would like to have.
Not to mention that in this case the only ‘bad’ thing that can happen is a lot of people stopping playing combined gamemode meaning that it was from the start inherently bad.
In reality the WT playerbase has only increased as time went on, so adding one more gamemode wouldn’t impact us very much. Queue times in GRB are minimal unless you’re in a squad and everyone is playing a different nation.
Not to mention that actually having a mode just for tankers could attrack new players.
See? As perfect a demonstration as I could have orchestrated
Instead of arguing about arguing, why don’t we have an actual discussion
Many don’t want it.
In case of discussion actual reasons for their point of view could get discovered ;)
Exactly. I want CAS mains to seriously consider their argument, and it’s actually funny that they don’t even take themselves seriously.
It’s ridiculous that people will say that TO will make tank players flock to it instead of playing combined arms, without considering why.
Because it’s been beaten to death and always fails right where I pointed out.
Yes, I’ve heard of many players saying they quit because they couldn’t play tanks without getting bombed.
Freudian slip.
Hey Meki,
Not weighing in on the chat in this particular instance but I’d like to point out the following.
Flying doctor is rightly pointing out that a poll of 44 people is not a representative sample of the player base as a flaw in your reasoning. In short, it’s not evidence in support of what you’re claiming.
Additionally, you’re confounding this misunderstanding of the sample size, Flying Doctor is not implying that the remaining 4 million players are, happy with the game. They are making the reasonable point that if a significant portion of the player base were significantly dissatisfied, they would make their opinions known.
My personal opinion is that you are confusing the the vocal minority with the silent majority, it’s easy to assume that the people contributing to the forums ‘are the people’ or ‘the whole’ when in fact they are very much the minority and unfortunately this minority tends to skew negative. I think it’s fair to point out that typical human behaviour is to exagerate the significance of negative experiences, hence why many of the posts in the general discussion are complaints or expressions of dissatisfaction. Another issue to consider is that these forums like most outlets for discussion on the internet are effectively echo chambers, this thread is a perfect example of this. You have 1 faction of players who are determined to remove aircraft from ground battles and are simply unwilling to entertain any other ideas vs the players who enjoy the game as it is and do not wish to see it changed. There is the illusion of discussion but neither party is willing to concede any ground. No amount of evidence based reasoning will change this as the desire to have aircraft removed from ground battles is founded in an emotional reaction to the game. Players are deeply upset when their tank gets bombed and all evidence, consideration and discussion on their behalf is still a slave to their emotional response, hence the discussions devolving into both sides vilifying each other for trying to play the game a certain way. Personally I think the odds are against the Anti CAS players as they are trying to fundamentally change the game, vs the players who are enjoying the game as it exists.
It is not unreasonable to assume that while the Majority of players are not necessary exstatic with the state of the game, it is a reasonable assumption to assume that their silence implies that the game is in a satisfactory condition, or at the very least not bad enough to go to the effort of complaining about.
Another thing to keep in mind is that many players don’t have any particular expectation from the developers or the game itself. It is either fun or it isn’t, they are simply accepting of the game at face value. While many players are combat vehicle enthusiasts, many more aren’t
