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@CAS_TAKES_SKILL your not going to win man. I started watching peoples matches who are on this thread and most of the time they died to CAS 3 times out of 10 games or even 4 times in 15 matches. Which is 10 to 20% of the time dying to CAS. They complaining about the small % they died to CAS while forgetting they had good matches or died to only tanks. Let alone seeing them use SPAA/SAM and staying in spawn the entire match not killing anything or shooting tanks with it. There will be unlucky moments, but majority of the time its % to CAS death is very small. Most stayed to the end of the match as well.
I even improved on my K/D with SPAA when they said K/D matters and they still don’t care bro. Improved my SPAA skills and knowledge, tried sharing it here and still don’t want to learn. You will find players with very bad K/D on M247 when its one of the best US SPAA vehicles out there. Crazy man. They desperate for a TO mode.
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The game has always had a plane only mode, and removing it would be dumb.
It’s also easier to balance only planes to create a mode specifically for them.
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Dying to CAS more than 0% of the times is the problem. Dying to something you couldn’t counter from the get go is literally the root of the problem.
Dying to tanks is okay considering you can counter them yourself.
Some people like to play tanks only, no problem in that.
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Thread summed up:
TO advocate: “I don’t want to play with you, go away”
CAS main: “NOOO YOU HAVE TO PLAY WITH ME GIT GUD YOUR NOT ALLOWED TO PLAY ALONE”
Why arguing about a decision that doesn’t affect you? People who consent to CAS can still be your victim, judging by the comments here there are a lot of people that don’t mind it.
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CAS mains: omg, we might run out of defenseless targets to bomb! don’t you dare take away our fun!
Also CAS mains: TO advocates are vocal minority
If they are so little in number, why are you worry?
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when drones were added gaijin said something along the lines of how they are a crucial part of warfare and wont be removed. if they aren’t going to remove drones, lets put our thinking caps on for about 3 seconds and realize that if drones aren’t going anywhere, neither are planes
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We will never get TO mode.
All we can realistically hope for is higher costs for CAS / more & better SPAA.
all i think it needs is: bigger airspace, push airfields further back and make aircraft spawn on the airfield
also add better spaa and then see if it needs further changes
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I’d only like to see an airspace increase after better SPAA is added.
If done before, would just give more opportunity for CAS to take advantage of their standoff.
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We should get it though, even if they make it a premium feature that allows paid players to opt out of CAS degeneracy like night maps or ban maps would be better than nothing.
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Yes, because if I’m in a tank, I can just shoot another tank. If I die, it’s probably my fault.
Vs if I get bombed - there is no counterplay possible aside from J-ing out before the bomb explodes and spawning an SPAA. In both of these situations, I have stopped doing what I came into this mode to do (play tanks)
Airspace increase at top tier so using long range ARH missiles doesn’t mean you gotta do circles at A1 to be outside Pantsir range
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Strongly disagree. As do a lot of other premium players. Which is why you will likely not.
Fracturing the playerbase is not going to benefit WT. Especially if it’s just to make a small percentage happy
The playerbase split issue is something many here rely on to explain away the true objections.
The fact is it’s part of the game, and it always has been, as long as the ‘problem’ has been exagerated and fixated on…
If those who had issue actually did get good and stop avoiding CAS and even trying to cope with CAS, as much as they did posting in this thread about how bad people are for choosing CAS, or accepting CAS, then maybe they’d have a better mindset.
But they don’t because stupid things get entertained in threads like these, villains are made, dogpiling occurs because ‘we’ have issue with what you said, and in the end people give up bothering to argue because no matter the argument the TO advocates will pull out yet another anecdotal ‘reason’ why they’re failing.
And that is the true issue with this… I had no issue with people having the point made, it just came back to the instant ‘You’re bad’ ‘You’re skillless’ ‘You just hate people’ mentatlity that comes from being opposing to anything the afflicted has to put out.
I don’t deserve to be hated on or berated into submission just because I object to dumbing down the game because a vocal minority have trouble with a portion of the game.
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Nah friend.
Let us play the more than 10 years old gamemode because “reasons”. You are not allowed to want something different that would benefit everyone!
Gaijin should just nerf/buff things and change others in a way that no one asked for, so we can stay in this “bubble” where only certain kind of gameplay is somehow entertaining and doesn’t put You at constant disadvantage without You being able to do something about it.
We can’t have another mode/modes or any kind of other things because why should Gaijin focus on the gameplay instead of another premium vehicles/features? I prefer to have an RTX option on small map, not the map that is actually balanced and suited for different tactics.
Remember, just because You can do even much better in an aircraft You are talking about, or You are just able to take it out without any issue, doesn’t mean that You don’t have skill issue because You have a problem with dying to aircrafts when You are in a unit that can’t fight back against the air.
Don’t forget that this game is a “team” game so that is a team issue (that You can’t do anything about as You are put in a random team) that in Your team there is no one dedicated to fighting air!
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If only the claim of “it would benefit everyone” held up under even slight scrutiny it would be a much better argument and significantly less opposition.
Sadly, we’ve yet to figure out a way to do that, hence the current quandary and lack of traction.
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Oh, I have already explained it countless of times, sadly with the flock of people crying about the same things over and over again of how TO would “destroy” the game, it gets hidden.
At the moment the only place where tankers can use their tanks is Ground (AB/RB/SB) mode. In the same mode Air units (aircrafts/helis/drones) can be spawned (outside of drones, both aircrafts and helis can be used in different gamemodes). So currently the “combined” mode (as I will be naming ground mode) consists of three types of people:
- People wanting to play only ground units that are not interested in air units.
- People who want to play both ground and air units.
- People who want to use only air units.
And Gaijin has to make the gamemode playable for all this people, meaning that we are constantly (since the air was put in ground battles) getting nerfs/buffs that are not solving any issue and are only making both sides unhappy:
- First people who want to play just ground still doesn’t get what they want.
- People who want to enjoy air are getting their game changed (not always in a way that they like).
With the introduction of TO mode, there would be no issue with people who just want to play ground units, meaning the “combined” mode could truely become combined without any need for unnecessary nerfs/buffs or changes that don’t solve anything.
Why this changes/nerfs/buffs won’t solve a thing? Even if You provide ground users with more SPAA options? Because they have a problem not in a moment when they are in an SPAA/Plane, but rather in a tank that doesn’t have a chance of fighting back.
So Gaijin could focus more of the core aspect of the game (combined mode) rather than trying to solve the issue that can’t be really solved.
(Please spare me the talk of “go play WOT”.)
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Oh I’ve seen you make the same claims repeatedly despite them being refuted over and over.
But what I said still stands, and it’s a big part of the reason why I don’t believe we will ever see a TO mode.
But a TO game does exist for anyone who just can’t stand aircraft.
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Sorry but none of my claims got refuted.
The only thing that happened is someone said “but muh playerbase split”, as we areadly have 200k players online in certain hours and we don’t know if more would come for the option of playing without the air.
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You can continue to insist that, but it isn’t helping your argument, nor your chances of never seeing TO…
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