Why do CAS players so vocally oppose any suggestions

You can.

You can also fly planes in air arcade, air realistic, air sim, naval arcade, naval realistic, naval EC.

So, how would a tank-only mode remove the entire air tech tree? Even ignoring naval (rightfully, given the AA accuracy being on par with airfield AAA), it has 3 modes to itself.

Kinda confused answer, but regarding the number of vehicles… I do think there are more plane models than SPAA IRL, so… Not much you can do.

Matchmaking time is a joke. Its the same as saying that 2 steps of a BR in a battle (instead of a full 1.0) will increase the matchmaking time in a big way. It’s a PRODUCT thing, not a GAME thing.

I mean, if we are talking about the GRB we have today, I mean that adding a tank only mode will be like removing it. Same as SPAA lines. It doesnt make sense in a product way. Did you guys realize that we have the AV8 NA right now, right? Do you guys really, REALLY think that its a AIR RB plane? Bad news for you guys. It will probably never happen.

And also we have a heli tree in every nation. Yeah. I dont see what gaijin will gain adding a tank only mode, honestly. Most of the prem guys are already ODLs, they dont need to “deal” with CAS anyways.

You said it’d remove the entire air tree. You did not specify “for ground battles.”

You’d keep your GRB mode and TO would exist either simultenously, or maybe as a weekend event like naval EC.

And ARB needs fixing since whenever they changed objectives to sit in a single sector with runways in spitting distance. ARB EC would be a very beloved change. Even just adjusting the maps to have multiple airfields with objectives spread around multiple sectors with empty sectors in between would also be amazing.

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Imagine if they went TO GRB and nearly every WoT player migrated over .What would happen to your queue time theory and issue then? You are just shaking your head like a naughty child.

I think you are worried it will be so popular that nobody will bother with the Combined arms version. I dont think so ,there are too many people in this game who like to fly and they play many of the game versions.

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That made zero sense.

You add one game to another game and that = er…two games.
I am no mathematician thoguh.

My dude, do I need to specify everything? OFC I was talking about the idea of a ground only mode. Or will you say that I didnt ask for removing ships, because I didnt mention it? cmon.

An honest question: do you know why the current BR range in a battle is 1.0 and not 0.7 (two steps)? It has NOTHING to do with the vehicles capabilities, its a PRODUCT thing. When you die to CAS, you get frustrated and I get that. You realize you need a SPAA or a PLANE, or even a CAS focused PLANE to do the same (most people do), and that is what Warthunder is BASED OF! THE GRIND! If everything is fair, why do little timmy will need to “grind” something, when he can do OK in every battle due to his vehicle?

Think about it.

Ok, let me write it in other way:

Today we have a gamemode were you can use TANKS, SPAA, PLANES, HELICOPTERS. You want a gamemode with TANKS but not SPAA, PLANES and HELICOPTERS. Thats the “removing” that i meant.

Er yes that is what TO GRB is and …

…and everything points that it will not happen.

The whole forum is mostly about things we dont have and would like .

I don’t see any ships in GRB is that a crime? There are no Subs currently ruining Naval is that so bad? Arcade has no option for CAS it has to be given when the game says ,yet its no crime against War Thunder. Start thinking outside the box.

GRB has long periods with no CAS and entire games with no CAS on occasion.So…

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Ofc, there are no troops too. LOL. If you ask around, most people would like to the grind to be lowered for 50%, earns to be 50% bigger, and so on… But the game is a PRODUCT dudes. And nerds like us who are in the forum are the minority of the playerbase.

About the no CAS periods? Fine? Its part of the game, isnt it? What next, a GO mode and people will complain about spawn camping without ANY chance of fighting back? Hmmmm, interesting. Or do you think that GO guys are a different kind of players who will not do that?

Then you fly CAP, do well in it and realize it’s a utter waste of time.

Shoot down 3 planes in your BF109 in GRB, you get ~1200 RP. 1200 RP that is NOT contributing to your stockgrind or rounding out your line-up. I’m working towards the Wirblewind right now on my german tree (I ain’t touching german SPAA until wiesel though, which I made my goal to get as it seems like an easy way to fulfil BP tasks for getting kills in an SPAA compared to my bosvark as it can LARP as a fox). I see that the skies are full of corsairs and jugs and mustangs. I take out my BF109 or F190 and clean up. What’s my reward? Nothing. I gained zero progress towards the wirblewind. Nada. I also got pitiful reward towards my next german plane.

I’m not going to bother flying CAP having realized this.

Shoot down 5 planes in your Yak-9T - get 6000 RP and it all contributes to the vehicle and stockgrind you want to do.

And I TOTALLY AGREE with you on this. People need an increase in reward for using planes as CAP/SPAA. You see, something that CAS people and anti CAS people agree.

I want that reward to go towards the ground vehicle I’m working towards.

Ground grind is already pitiful compared to ARB for similar performance (1200-2000 score - one gives 2000-3000 RP, other gives 3000-9000 RP)

Agree. Simple as that. Honestly, it will be way more fun to play with CAP around and not the dumb 16v16 that is on AIRRB. Again, a simple solution that benefits both sides, and are not “I dont like it so remove it”.

The whole game seems to focus on this forum and its suggestions and opinions.It is hardly going to focus on the silent majority is it as it has no idea what they want.Think about it.

Again that was easy to answer because its a standard forum answer ,a cliche.

Seriously .TO GRB stops the ruination of the standard game.We dont need any changes to CAS at least at the first half of the game.I am happy with CAS in GRB, I don’t want or need or nerfing anymore.Its finished its done, move on.

A Tank only GRB has nothing to do with CAS/SPAA or it’s existence. It is a game set on the ground with ground units facing other ground units in their big and varied guise and all the potential fun that scenario might bring.

By implementing it alongside GRB nobody loses a thing on either game.Its not a hard concept to grasp.

The game is not dying ,we have no issue with numbers even Stona and Smin said so.

Who sayd its dying?

And sure, they are really worried about forum. ODLs are not a complain here too, right? Everyone asks for a new T80 or more high tier premiums? Sure, its the forums, not what sales.

BTW the last XXX Only mode that we had… doesnt exist anymore, right?

The threads made about the game dying and the response is that we have huge numbers on here.So that kills the fragmenting the player base issue at source.Plus TO only is an attractive proposition for those who play the other game so a potential for a big increase in player numbers.

ODL is often related to CAS so yes maybe a big decrease in ODL as well.

Doubt it. ODL is one tank pushing the other side in 2 min, and people with high tier premiums. CAS is a factor, but its not the biggest one (not in 10.0+).

But listen, if a plane is not a menance to you, you dont need to GRIND a fighter, dont need to GRIND SPAA line… dont need to GRIND… Grind? The basis of warthunder? Yeah.