Oh, yeah F-4JUK is at least as “bad” as Kfir C7.
I’ve always said that.
Comparing F-4JUK to FG and F-4J USA is a lot more clear.
@Caernarvon02
That’s only “under-BR’d” in the sense that F-15A being brought up to 13.3 would warrant bringing up all the 13.7s and 14.0 aircraft.
why are you getting F-15s involved now…
I did a couple (guns only for balance) dogfights against typhoons in a spitfire LF mk9 and I was struggling to get my nose on them for shots its insane how mobile that aircraft is even at prop speeds, even with it missing full utilisation of pirate its still not fair for any of the 13.7 aircraft to be right next to it
Cause a select amount of 13.0s cause issues for 12.0s and 12.3s, including British Phantoms.
Moving up the OP 13.0s would make the FG series Phantoms notably stronger.
I wouldnt call wyvern undertiered, just a very good example of the need for separate bases for bombers from strike aircraft and fighters
the issue I found in the UK phantoms were the F-14s. Gaijin should make the max uptier .7 tbh. It would not be difficult to butcher lobbies with the AV-8B Harrier 2
Its low fuel flight performance is cracked with it being able to pull up to 18gs sometimes, yeah, however it’s worse at WVR than the Rafale and worse at BVR than the F-15E/I, so while it is the best fighter currently, it’s not overpowered for its BR.
Fair point, its speed and armament is its strong suit
if you ask me, they should have kept the gripen as the performance king, gaijin has to draw the flight performance line somewhere
I’m very curious as to how they’ll model the F-22 and later Russian jets with their TVC.
0.7 match maker would end WT, too much matchmaker BR compression.
As for F-14… just be aware of uptiers and RWR, the AIM-54 radar band shows up on British Phantom RWRs.
As for flight performance, Gaijin will always use real-world data whenever possible. Gripen’s not getting its day one flight performance back.
the Su-30SM is going to be a UFO. but again, gaijin has to draw the line somewhere
It’ll have worse weaponry and (depending on how it’s modelled) radar than other 14.0s, so it shouldn’t make a massive difference the majority of the time.
yea with how multipathing is at the moment, F-14s can fly high, spam pheonixes off and get 2-4 kills, then rearm and still have one of the best dogfighting airframes for its BR. As for the Gripen, its current performance should be the top bar, as it would still be defeatable due to its lack of engine thrust and low AOA
Get 2 - 4 kills against bombers.*
Fixed it.
The only time I died to an AIM-54 outside air sim was when I had to intentionally die to it to see something.
They’re so slow and maneuverability that a minor aggressive maneuver defeats them.
Considering Gaijins continual refusal to decompress quicker than they release new content, it would be better than what we have now.
I’d also like to add, what makes F-14s so strong is that it forces the other team to into a defensive position. No other plane can do that, and no other plane fills a similar role. The IRAF is especially bad, and it needs to move up. I’d rather have one plane be mid, than ruin the experience for anyone at a lower BR.
try that in a phantom, and since the Fakour 90 got a G pull buff, 12.0 is just teams evaporating against them
a full load of rockets and a 1000lbs bomb will sink almost every battleship in game with a good aim its really powerful, but still not OP
for 4.3 it is
He will show you proudly that he defeated AIM-54 long before when F-14A eradicated Mirage IIIC.
and might claim ‘As long as stick to the ground it will be fine! Phantoms are better than Mirage IIIC. isn’t it?’