I hit a tree trying to doge a missile. Thats my fault, but I shouldn’t be punished with the timer. I was playing, I lost. It’s not like I hit J to deny the dude a kill. This is silly and inappropriate.
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pilot died, they gotta train new crew, hence crew lock
The game software has no way of telling what your intent was. Best it can do is mass punishment.
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At least this happens when you are in a plane, I was driving a USA humvee radar unit and fail to 🐶 a tree then run head first into it and the driver in the humvee dies so I received a 8 minutes crew lock for self inflicted damage lawl dumbest death I’ve ever had
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Crew lock just needs to be removed.
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No
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Yes. It’s about as useful as convertible research points.
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It’s to prevent people from just leaving a match because they perceive it as an immediate loss.
If anything, it should be increased.
And if people keep doing it after the first crew lock, lock all nation crews for half an hour.
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Same with planes and tanks violently being thrown around because of packet loss
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Crew lock does nothing to dissuade players from ODL. Maybe fining players SL might make a difference but crew lock isn’t working as a deterrent, especially in the high tier battles.
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It does if it means they can’t play the game for being cringe
Then they’ll just play another nation. It serves zero purposes.
Does poorly at that, just play a 2nd nation
No. Ridiculous idea.
It’s pretty clear you’re just angry long term about people one deathing for REASONABLE and SMART reasons so you want to basically whip them into playing bad maps, bad matchups, etc for your benefit
People leave games for VERY VALID reasons and trying to PUNISH them for doing so for those EXTREMELY VALID reasons is really stupid. You should instead be trying to fix the game to where people are less inclined to WANT to one death leave because they are having a better time playing it.
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This is also a ridiculous, not thought out idea
This is for you too to read: People leave games for VERY VALID reasons and trying to PUNISH them for doing so for those EXTREMELY VALID reasons is really stupid. You should instead be trying to fix the game to where people are less inclined to WANT to one death leave because they are having a better time playing it.
And if they leave while that crew is locked and get another crew lock
All nations get locked.
Nice try.
That’s an incredibly dumb idea. You might as well just ban the person at that rate if you’re going to design the game to be that player-hostile.
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It wasn’t a try, that’s the truth. You want unreasonable solutions that further punish the playerbase and further reinforce a negative atmosphere instead of addressing the reasons why people would want to do so. You are suggesting the equivalent of making minor petty theft shoplifting for food give 20 years in prison instead of just making food more accessible for the lower income brackets.
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If you want to leave a match so badly after one death, clearly you don’t want to play the game. Obviously this doesn’t apply to ARB since it’s a one death game mode but ODL literally punishes your entire team because you want to be cringe.
Bad match or not.
It’s a team game and ODL is nothing but selfish.
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You call it emotions.
I call it pragmatism. Why is it fair that - if on the fact your teammates are busting their ass trying to win - you’re the one that gets to leave because you got killed for x, y or z reason?
Obviously this isn’t including extenuating circumstances like real life stuff
I personally leave matches sometimes, but not too often, if I get a bad map I simply don’t want to play, or if I get full uptiered and I again, just don’t want to play because of crappy BR balance. Guess what, this doesn’t hurt a soul because I do it in the first 5 seconds if I’m going to, and then I am replaced automatically by another player before the match starts. That’s how this game works. Even if somebody DOES one death leave after the game starts and then therefore can’t be replaced, they STILL are not hurting you in any real way but they likely have VERY REAL REASONS why they do it, such as PLAYING A PREMIUM TANK which means they likely DON’T have a way to spawn more. What do you expect? For them to have to buy $240 of premiums so they can have a crappy lineup?
Nobody, and I mean nobody in this game actually plays for the team. I wish they did, but they don’t. Further, the game heavily incentivizes you to ODL or Zero DL because of its inherently highly impactful anti-player policies and mechanics.
Because I don’t owe anything to them. If I ask any given random player to do anything for me, even something like “please don’t run off, we need this objective” or “help me here I’m going to push”, I literally, and I do this often, get like a sub 5% response rate in this game. I have no reason to ever care about what random people want from me when literally none of them are willing to do it in return.
Lastly, and I alluded to this earlier, nobody is obligated to have a bad time to help you have a better time. If I’m or anybody else is not having fun in a match, then we should be completely in our right to leave it and go find another. In what world is it right to make someone else have a bad time to help somebody else have a good time
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One less vehicle meaning it’s now a numbers advantage - skill not withstanding. That 100% sounds like hurting the entire match for one team to me.
Solution is to force a lineup, even if it’s only three vehicles within 1.0 of each other.
Or they can do what everyone else has done and actually grind the tree.
Most don’t but ODL is one of the biggest symptoms of it.
What a positive mentality.