Which nation has the best ground players?

The one metric I take note of in ground is average team position. To me, that is an indicator of whether a person is one death leaving or not. Whatever nation has the fewest one death leavers gets my vote of best.

Look at this game I had tonight:

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Take note of the bottom players with 70 score. Those were our 7.3s. One guy had an IS-3… one death left. Other guy didn’t even turn up. The willingness to play as a team and bring a lineup and use that lineup. Give me that over any other metric of skill.

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Idk if it’s a tragedy insofar as we finally got solid proof that .SYNC. harbors cheaters and can be safely forgotten about and banished from any serious events.

Should I remain in blissful ignorance?

Yes.

Unless you like racist, transphobic toxic tryhards who gloat they’re superior to everyone and everything, all the time.

for ground 7.7, knock it down below everyone lmao.

Ive seen fumbles that made me unironically go touch grass to preserve my mental health.

Looks reasonable and comprehensible 👍

But (and just an example): You might agree that the player quality varies during the daytime too. So if you live in Europe and play early morning on the US/NA server you can clearly see that the overall quality of US players increase significantly - the minors are in the beds and the adults play usually way better😉

You might agree that without your squadmate @AurenKarach (a real passionate player) you might have lost way clearer.

Imho this is a matter of having resources in the first place - so as long as gaijin is unable or unwilling to solve the underlying issues your understanding of teamwork is just working with a coordinated squad / squadded teammate.

Have a good one!

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Hu? Have you played top tier?

They have the second best top tier heli at the moment with 16x long ranged FnF missiles. Meanwhile multiple nations still stuck with Hellfires

The Abrams is still the second best top tier MBT at the moment, and clowns on most other nations “equivalents” quite frankly, they are under BRed.

Whilst this is true, its not the end of the world. the US is not the onyl nation without APS.

Again, not the end of the world and multiple other nations dont either. Most of the Challengers, the Arietes. Not even the Leopard 2s have LWS.

Desert Warrior cough cough

Let alone all the nations without even as much as Bradley.

meanwhile the US has the HSTV-L.

So TLDR. No the US Mains just have the least skill because they get terrible win rates with actually some of the best equipment in the game and this is consistantly true for both air and ground. To claim otherwise is actually quite funny

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I suspect it’s more than just what American players are occupying the US server at the time. Though, Auren and I have been playing at the same time during this ground event, and we were having days were we were at 70-80% winrate. Then suddenly, yesterday, we had a rotten session of under 30%. Sometimes the Gaijin Gods will bless you, and then strike you down. I will say, as an English speaking person, I do prefer the timezones that bring more people who I can communicate with.

I know he is passionate, that’s why I’ve been squading with him. We play the objectives, we bring a lineup, and we don’t give up until the game is over. And in this instance my nuke was afforded to me by Auren holding the ground while I was able to bomb, before I rejoined him to press the cap. So the mere squading up can and does influence stats, but it depends on who you squad with. I see plenty of 2-4 man squads just weighing down the team.

Bringing a lineup and participating and not giving up is not something that requires a squad - coordinated or uncoordinated. When I play solo (which I do most of the time), I don’t give up til the battles over. I know there is a grind there. I know having a lineup is easier said than done sometimes. But most of the one death leavers I see, especially at that BR, are simply doing it by choice rather than a lack of competitive vehicles.

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As for the question itself, there is always the statement of “If you want an easy time, play US, USSR or Germany but if you want to learn how to play the game play any of the minor nations” with nations like Britain often mentioned in regarding to learning shot placement.

Did that spawn from the ‘Britain suffers’ narrative?

no, from the fact we dont have the Overperforming APHE. We are 100% dependent on APDS that requires precise shot placement to do any damage

Yeah, the whole APDS thing is itself blown out of proportion. It’s not as bad as everyone tries to make out. Anyway, to me, both Italy and France require more thought and effort than most of the British tree. Britain benefits by having some absolute power-house lineups that nations like Italy could only dream of. I would even say that Britain is as easy as those major nations (in ground, of course).

F&F missiles that were nerfed so much that they can’t even kill a Pansir with one missile.

The Abrams has no armor, no LWS, and can be one-shot through its gun mantlet.
It’s the only tank that can penetrate almost anything at any angle.

Not the only ones, but the US does not have any equipment with APS at all.

The Germans at least have LWS on their tanks and on the Puma too.

Okay, Bradley is second worst. You’ve convinced me.

The HSTV L is very weak. It barely penetrates the sides of Soviet tanks, and sometimes it doesn’t even penetrate the sides of a T-90M. It’s a first-generation thermal imager, and only has 25 rounds.
It’s useless against Soviet tanks.

And that’s why Gaigis constantly nerfs the US nation and gives them all cut-down weapons? US players are the strongest in the game because only skilled players can handle such terrible vehicles.

Right and? 3 nations dont even ahve FnF and Chinas FnF is SAP

It has average armour, better mobility than most, second best shell in the game but with a faster reload than the best. Most MBTs dont ahve LWS and has a shamm gun mantlet weakspot than most.

Again, not uncommon

Not on their MBTs as far as I am aware. Only the Puma

Do me a favour. Play the Challenger 2 or Ariete and then come back to me please

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The complete list of vehicles with LWS can be found here. Its free to use and takes few seconds to check whenever your claims hold any water.

LWS is not common amongst top tier MBTs.

Germany has 0 (zero) tanks with LWS, which can be found only on both PUMAs and Boxer MGS.

I highly suggest doing some research before making such claims, youre just playing into stereotypes about US mains not being the brightest.

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I knew this topic was just a dick measuring contest (with some cries of Russian bias hidden in there)

You are ragebaiting

I think the issue with apds is not so much general aiming but particularly bad in situations where a tank is only partially exposed.

For example APHE would make short work of a Patton tank showing the cupola but AP shells can barely do anything but kill the commander.

Likewise if only the rear of a tank is shown due to cover, something like 85mm APHE would nuke the whole crew while AP shells can at most knock out the engine and what’s in front of the shell.

His Agm-179s are severely weakened. They’re useless.

The Abrams has average mobility; the T-80BVM outperforms the M1A1SEPV2. Leopards, too. Soviet and German tanks are practically impenetrable through its mantlet. The Abrams has a huge area around its mantlet that can be penetrated.
And the US has the oldest MBTs on the list. The SEPV2 will soon be 20 years old.

For example?

Not Britian or US can tell you that much lmao